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Marcus,
Just leave them alone? Why don't they leave the jews alone? The extremists have hijacked their religion and nobody is safe, muslim, christian, jew, or atheist. If they are ignored they will grow stronger. Israel ignored Hezbullah for the past six years, all Hezbullah did was use the time to build up their weapons and fortify their positions before they launched an assault on Israel. You can't make cartoons or films that are remotely critical of their religion without them being outraged. You didn't answer the question about Theo Van Gogh...don't you think he had it coming to him? About our poor and homeless, there are social programs for the poor in this country and plenty of low paying entry level jobs available for those who want to enter the work force. In terms of giving more money to Africa, it is bad enough almost every country in the world is getting a handout from us and criticizes us for not giving more. Which is it Markus, are we the protector of the world or not? If Africa can't rid itself of tribal differences and create land out of the desert they can cultivate, like the jews, then we really ought to just send them to Sweden where they will live like princes on somebody else's dime. As for the numbers games with Saddam and the US...We would have to kill over thirty times more Iraqis just to catch up.:wink
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Marcus,
Just leave them alone? Why don't they leave the jews alone? The extremists have hijacked their religion and nobody is safe, muslim, christian, jew, or atheist. If they are ignored they will grow stronger. Israel ignored Hezbullah for the past six years, all Hezbullah did was use the time to build up their weapons and fortify their positions before they launched an assault on Israel. You can't make cartoons or films that are remotely critical of their religion without them being outraged.

Ah i didnt know that, Some history to catch up :lol

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You didn't answer the question about Theo Van Gogh...don't you think he had it coming to him?

Well, I didnt answer because.. yeah ive heard of the name.. but i dont know what he have done.

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About our poor and homeless, there are social programs for the poor in this country and plenty of low paying entry level jobs available for those who want to enter the work force.

Cool, we have that too.. But for some reason they wanna live on the street.

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In terms of giving more money to Africa, it is bad enough almost every country in the world is getting a handout from us and criticizes us for not giving more.


Yeah almost every countrey get some money from US, But US still have plenty of money, And instead of going into Pointless wars, Like Iraq.. It really is Pointless in my opininon.
Then all those money could do so much good around the whole world.

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Which is it Markus, are we the protector of the world or not? If Africa can't rid itself of tribal differences and create land out of the desert they can cultivate, like the jews, then we really ought to just send them to Sweden where they will live like princes on somebody else's dime. As for the numbers games with Saddam and the US...We would have to kill over thirty times more Iraqis just to catch up.:wink
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Protector of the world, I'd say both yes and no.
Yes because you're the biggest countrey and have the biggest Army, If some allies need help, US will help since they have plenty of forces.
So in that way they do protect, But if we had 300 million people in our countrey,and same money as you guys.
Then we wouldnt need to be protected, right?

The iraq war is the only thing ive been following pretty close, Since i dont know that much about the past stuff.
But who do you protect when you invade Iraq?
Protecting rest of the world? If so.. From what... because if they could do something.. it would be on US because of the past stuff like the pointless Vietnam war. And because US is the most powerful countrey in the world.

If Iraq attacked directly on US, Like the Japanese did in WW2.
Then i would stand by and cheer on you guys when invading Iraq.

So by invading Iraq for no threat at all, You get people against you, because they protect THEIR countrey like US did when Japan did the Pearl Harbor attack.
And by doing that, Ofcourse the attacks will be more then before.

Send em here and live like princes? Its no diffrence here then US, You have to work just as much.

I still think some stuff that US have done is pointless, Mostly the recent Iraqie War...
But thats just my opinion.



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Yeah almost every countrey get some money from US, But US still have plenty of money, And instead of going into Pointless wars, Like Iraq.. It really is Pointless in my opininon.
Then all those money could do so much good around the whole world.




America IS bankrupt, we have been for a long time. Look into it if you have an issue with that statement, anyone. We give a LOT, billions, trillions, God knows how much away. We don't have it, it's credit. It will have to be paid back someday, in some form. We're always there handing something out, giving food away, helping after a disaster and yet at the same time some other country is bitching and moaning while they do nothing.

God would I love to stop the handouts, stop the aid and just let the world burn while we focus our attention on America first.

I can hear the cries of the world as a baby dies in Africa because nobody else did anything about food aid, or if there's a natural disaster and people need evacuated but our navy isn't there, or if some 2 bit dictator takes over a country and starts killing all his opponents. The last one happens all the time, look at Africa, then look at all the people who help. Anyone? NOPE, not unless they have something that other country wants, and guess what, it doesn't have to be the US and oil.

Hell, in large sections of Africa genocide is happening and the USA hasn't been involved. How can that be? ISLAM

I'm not too thrilled about a lot of **** in this country, but I'm pretty damn sure it's still one of the best, and I'm doing my part to try to correct all the bad stuff. That means trying to prevent the socialist big brother state we're quickly becoming. To do that people need to take the power back, take control after they quit with all the distractions like sports, and TV, and everything meant to distract from what's really going on.

step 1, take our toys and go home, don't answer the phone when someone calls. Let the world deal with their own problems for a while.

AAAARGH! communism, socialism, it doesn't work, it never will.


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Cleveland, Im not gonna argue on all that you said because it was not what i was talking about from the begining or complaining about.... because its nothing to complain about.
I know USA do alot of good stuff, More then most countreys!!

But something i dont like, Is that Iraqie war.
It is really a war that shouldnt happen, Many lives and money have been lost for nothing
I know many many many people agree whit me that the Iraqie case was pointless.

But i am very thankful for everything else Good USA have done, But all im saying, imagen how much more good they could have done instead of wasting lifes and money on a war that began BEFORE U.S got involved!....

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Peace is the elimination of your enemies. On BOTH sides. If The radical Islamic terrorists win YOU will either be Islamic or dead. If "America" wins then you will be alive and enjoy the same freedom you have now.

Is it a bad thing that people die, **** yeah! Is it a good thing that MORE people are prevented from dying by horrible means? Uh, YEAH! In the past warfare has included the utter destruction of entire societies, men, women, children. Are "we" doing that? No, but the terrorists are. Israel has had a smaller number of suicide bombings and terror attacks since the beginning of the Iraq war. Would you rather have suicide bombings in crowded urban areas in Israel against civilians or in Iraq targeting American troops?

I've got friends and family who have been there and you DO NOT hear about the positive happening there, at least not in this country. The media has an agenda and you have taken their bait hook line and sinker.

I don't like the fact we're there, I question the reasons, and I don't think we've heard anything close to the true reason.

We're all going to die. As a Christian, even the shitty one I am, I'm more concerned with people who continue to kill innocent people, here, there, or the moon, it doesn't matter.

Tom

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I agree whit you Tom,

I also know good things is happening there, But mostly bad things.... When the good over come the bad.. then im happy... but the past years they have been in there.. Its mostly been bad.

I still think as i stated from my first post, That i think the war is pointless..
Even do i know its for a good cause, the loss of all lifes is huge.. yeah.. those damn terrosist will most likley do more attacks and people will die.
But more people is being killed over there now by US troops, then the attacks they are doing there and future attacks will ever do.

How many people have died in Iraq now? I've heard its around 100-200 000 People.

On 9/11 a bit over 3k ppl died, Inocent people. Include all the other attacks they have been doing since 1970- and any other future attacks the 5 coming years. That number will never reach up to 100-200 000 People.

I think that is creepy.. Because more damage is being done..over there then good, But the whole point was to do good right?..


Thats just my poor opinion.
I dont think i can discuss this anymore, since i will think what i think about this Iraqie war, No matter what anyone else is telling me.

Remember im just talking about the Iraqie war... USA have done some awesome stuff, and helping people so much.
And i know that.







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The distinct problem with anything is the inherent belief of anyone that their way is the way. Whether it be religion or business, the majority of people are not willing to change

So many people !@#$ and moan about this or that, but never realize that it never affects them to the extent they imagine. If I have a problem with someone, I learned long ago to just leave them the hell alone, and knock off the BS. It seems that people as a whole have not learned that lesson

It doesn't matter if they blew up a decent amount of people in an instant a few years ago, leave them to their own (suicidal) devices and concentrate on keeping ourselves in the clear. When we're worrying about our own futures, we have no place to go about trying to change the futures of others

When we're all settled down and in the clear, then try to 'help' other people... there's no use in destroying ourselves to help others who don't even want help

This counts for anything. The Middle East, Africa's current hellhole (and apparently another money pit) or even the homeless in this country

Yes, it sounds selfish, but what's the point of (metaphorically) killing yourself to extend the life of someone with a terminal illness?

**** the numbers, or the politics, we've got our own goddamned problems we have to deal with first
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That's the United States for you. We give and give and give and instead of a thank you we get a f**k you for for it. Yeah, we're the f**king bad guys. Personally I wish we would pack up all of our stuff and bring all of our soldiers home. Then we should cut off all the pity payments and "foriegn aid". We should leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves. Then we should withdraw from the useless UN and waste anybody who looks at us sideways.

Disrespect is a two way street and I'm tired of wiping the whole worlds a**.

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Amen!

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lol, did you guys read what i said?

All im saying is, that iraq war shouldnt have happen,Its just a loss of life. It was no reason to go into Iraq at the first place.
If their is reasons, Please tell me.
And a source would be nice to see also.

Nuclear and wipe the middle east out, You will never get an end of the Terrorist by doing that.
There is groups everywhere around the world.

Members of Al quada or what it calls, have even been arrested here in Sweden for doing plans on future attacks.
They are everywhere.... So nuke the middle east.. is not the answer to solve the Terrorist Problem.

But thats just my opinion :p And im not talking about all the other stuff America does for the world,God bless America for that!

But this Iraqie war is the only thing i disslike that the gouverment did.





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