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hehehe...yeah, Gobby was right. If I walked into that room and saw that monster there, wanting to fight me, I would have turned around and ran like a little girl hehehe... :p Just playing around, in all seriousness my art's main philosophy is, opponents size, strength and skill is irrelevant. There is no second place in a fight.

I dig Bruce Lee, but he was a cocky guy. Part of why he was so stressed out all of the time, was his anger and impatience with any and everything around him. The other thing I didn't like about his martial art, is it relied too much on speed and strength (I trained in JKD for 5 years). As we get older, we lose speed and strength, so it's not good to train yourself to rely on these things. Although JKD has a lot of great philosophy and training ideas in it, I didn't stick with it because I wanted a more of a track and field of martial arts training. Besides, at 25 he thought he knew it all about martial arts and it is not good to be overly cocky like that. I still love him and have a lot of respect for him, because of him martial arts got as big as it became, but he was a little too cocky in his ways.

Distance and Timing is more important in martial arts, which is why an old fart like Bob could start his training anytime, no such thing as too late. :)

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To be able to do a choregraphed fight in a fan film would be awesome for me. And/Or to watch others close-up.
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Bruce had what it took to be special. There is fine line between genius and insainity. Everyone has flaws. Extremes give way to extremes. His philosophy suggested he strove for balance.

We must give him credit for all the life he never got to live. His views would have become enhanced and would have evolved further if he lived. he was a thinker but it takes time to think and work through things.

When we were 25 we thought we knew it all too and yet we were nothing like Bruce Lee who really did know a lot and have great skill to boot.

All those who associated with him said he never looked up or down to anyone. That shows balance and that is the Bruce I choose to believe had merit and those qualities would have continued to develop had life gone on.

If you follow the true meaning of style with out style it would hold true to finding a way in all phases of life. At 70 Bruce would have still been something to reckon with but in an evolved way.

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The thing that I find so facinating about all forms of martial arts is the adapability/improvisational aspect. Your chances of success in life are so enhanced if you "be like water" as Bruce used to say, or in other words adapt to your own situation. Jantys form of martial arts takes into consideration the fact that you cannot rely on speed, or brute strength, because these things are fleeting at best, and that's another form of adaptability. Likewise we create costumes and fanfilms with little or no training, no money, no crews of people. WE ADAPT. We may not know how to do a lot of things, But we also don't know that we CAN'T.
     If you ever get a chance, check out a bass player by the name of Victor Wooten (bela fleck and the flecktones). He is also a martial artist. and a jaw-dropping bass player. He constantly preaches the art of adapting, and pushing the bounds of his art.
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That's what I am saying. All you see of Bruce's life is a snapshot and during that snap shot it was a time in his life when he was young and had speed and agility but more important was the philosophy or base the man built as his foundation.

The snap shot is enough to show you that if he had gone on and followed his own philosopy and built on that same foundation he too would have evolved and become greater still.

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Cool stuff guys. The martial art I am part of is very based on seeing things as far, even though they are close and seeing things as close even though they are far, which is very similar to what Bruce understood, in that you can't be set in your ways and don't just learn something and lock it down as, "I've mastered this, I'm moving to the next technique". My Soke (head of family) always tells us, "after learning what you have learned, throw it away". Every year he speaks of throwing away everything you learned last year and don't ever think about it again. Your body will keep a lot of what you learned naturally, to do it through memorization is very un-natural and will lead you no where. How many people remember everything they have ever been taught or remember everything that has been said to them? Not many at all. So to learn my memory is not a good way to learn.

As far as Bruce, dn't get me wrong, a lot of his philosophies were great, but they were nothing new. These philosophies in the martial arts have been around for thousands of years, the reason why it was thought of as being so brand new to westerners, was because Bruce was the first one to demonstrate and speak about it. Remember, when Bruce came around, sports like Karate and Judo were the big thing, even though Asian Warring arts (not sport arts) were still being taught in the east (not the sports that were popular here).

Also, many of Bruce's friends spoke of how whenever another martial artist was in the same room with him, he would do whatever it took to get a rise out of that person. Giving him the eye, questioning his teachings etc..which is why I don't think Bruce was the master of all masters. A real master would never do such things. Maybe if he was still alive to this day, would be a different story. For all we know, he could have been the serious master that he was portrayed as being in his 20's. But Bruce has a lot of growing to do, it's just too bad his life was cut short.

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So, ugghhh, back to the topic... Lets see you in the full suit.

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One good thing hijacking a thread does is keep it at the top.

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 :lol

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It is easy for others to say that they are flexible now that they have seen Bruce's wisdom but I don't believe it. The major martial arts are rigidly defined and rightly so. There are over 200 different styles of Kung Fu alone. The only way to tell the difference is to observe the rigidity of the rules and identify the actions and movements. All the main big ones Karate Tae Kwon Do, Aikido and Kung Fu are such. There may have been those that deviated from the norm but they are not the main ones. I am not an authority on the subject and I am sure you know of some examples especially since you are studying them but I just wanted to back up Bruce. Having studied Tae Kwon Do, Aikido, and Kung Fu myself I can tell you their training is nothing like what Bruce teaches like.

I only wish I lived where you do. You have so many more resources out there.

There is a great school of one of Bruce's students down by the shore by the airport. I visited there while in California and saw a few of Bruce's original training items on display and got to watch a class. I would have loved to train there. I brought in my book of Bruce's to get Danny's autograph. He was unfortunatly not in at the time.

Is that where you trained perhaps Jants? Great school it seemed.

Paul

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