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How To Fix Torn Armor


While removing my **** '89 chest from the old bodysuit that was glued down with DAP contact cement, I tore into the chest armor. Actually, the right bicep.

The tear is about three inches long and slightly jagged. I plan on gluing it back onto a new bodysuit, but would like as much advice as possible before doing so.

I had tried brushing liquid latex onto the bodysuit, but didn't do a very good job, because the mannequin I had the suit on, was smaller than I was... So it was very tight on me when I tried to put it on. Which is why I'm removing the armor from the old bodysuit.

What are my options, guys?!?!



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Re: HELP!! I tore my '89 armor! How should I fix it?


Join the two pieces back together on the outside using some gaffer tape. Make sure the tape covers the whole of the tear and that there are no gaps in the join.

Then on the inside of the tear, brush black tinted liquid latex. Use as many layers as necessary and allow to dry completely.

Once the latex is cured, carefully remove the tape. The tear should now be joined showing only a hairline crack. Spray the area with several light coats of black plasti-dip until the crack is no longer visible.

Hope this helps.

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I’m not much good with latex – but I can see from your palm that you will have a long life and are soon to go on a journey of some description.

Good luck with the mend.
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Do what PJ said, it's a quick, simple fix. You could even superglue it together.

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Another thing that would help is brushing latex onto both sides of the depth of the crack. Allow both side to dry then using the same method described above join the two back together. The properties of the latex will cause it to stick back together (any one that has ever pulled a cowl from a mould without using talculm powder inside the cowl first will know what I mean).

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Okay! Thanks Paul! emoticon Gotta' love Plasti-Dip.

Matt, I thought of that as well... would Crazy Glue work? emoticon

And GA... Somehow, upon seeing your Avatar and knowing your personality from here, I expected a humorous comment. emoticon

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PJ's right on the money... simple and concise. emoticon

~Tim emoticon

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As for glue ... if you do use any, get the Bondini gel .. less mess and more control
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Just did the same dang thing to my just received **** panther right leg. Last night did the saran wrap thing (wot fun that is!!) Chest held fine. Left leg fine. Right leg, not fine. This morning trying again. Won't hold, except for a couple spots. Trying to remove it and put industrial velcro on, tugging it loose, it's coming up easy, noise outside, dogs bark, turn and look while pulling and RIP! The whole top 5" rips right off. emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon

Talk about feeling like a lameass. Event is at 4:30 today.

Currently about to try and seam it w/ industrial velcro, put super glue in the tear, blue mask it together, run to Michael's for some latex, brush on, hope it drys fast and spray plasti dip on it.

Dang it. And woke up sick yesterday, so I haven't been ontop of my game as it is.

Criminey, what a drag.
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Stick with PJ's advice. It WILL [sign in to see URL] not bondini the tear, it will make the area brittle and more suseptible to tearing again.. To strengthen the area once you actually repair the rip place a layer of latex soaked medical gause or cheese cloth on the inside and once it's dry to the touch add several more coats of latex. Once fully cured (2 days or so) it'll all be bonded as one piece.

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Cool! emoticon

I also got some advice to put the "Band-Aid" idea on the inside, although using a piece of latex, instead of cheese cloth. Since I have no access to a piece of existing and cured latex, I think I'll go with the gauze idea, since we've got plenty of that.

I'm a carpenter... This is what we call a "scab" or a "gusset". The same techique, but with very different materials. emoticon

I've got some tape on the outside of the armor. I'm actually using clear Scotch tape, so I can see the seam and make sure it's as tight as possible. If I used a solid color tape, I wouldn't be able to be sure the seam is as tight as if it were whole.

I also have the first coat of dyed liquid latex on the backside. After the next coat dries, I'll brush the third coat on, along with the gauze and then I'll just keep brushing new coats on until it feels strong enough.

This process would probably go faster if we had the dry heat we had a few weeks ago. Right now, it's raining like a sunofab*tch!

Stupid, stupid. emoticon emoticon

I was pulling the latex off of the bodysuit... Rather than pulling the bodysuit off of the latex! It does make a difference! emoticon

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Echo,

   You know if you want some help you're welcome to come by the Ed cave. I'm only in Danbury. Near the mall.

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Why were you removing it from you undersuit? Did the DAP cement you used hold up good? I ask because I am still picking an undersuit and cement for my **** armor.

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Well, I think I mentioned it in my original post, but I needed to take the armor off of the bodysuit because about a year after I had glued the armor onto it with DAP, I decided to brush liquid latex onto the exposed areas of the bodysuit, to achieve a more uniform color and to make it a bit more screen accurate.

I dyed the latex black and brushed it onto the exposed areas of the legs (where the armor wasn't). I only started with the leg area, so if it didn't turn out too great for my first time trying it, I would possibly do a better job when I moved up to the arms and torso area.

I quickly applied the latex with a small roller and then went back and brushed it all out smooth.

Only, I did all this while it was on my mannequin that I usually keep the suit on, while on display. The mannequin is smaller than I am. Not in height, but in girth.

Apparently, to achieve exacting results, you're supposed to apply all the latex while the bodysuit/under armor is on a life cast or a mannequin that's the same size as you are... Some of you nut jobs (and you know who you are) actually wear the bodysuit all frekin' day and have a buddy apply the latex directly onto them. The first coat of latex doesn't try very quickly when it's applied to fabric.

I just don't have the time for that.

Anyway, the reason I messed up is not because I did a lousy job applying the latex... It's because latex shrinks as it cures and when I tried to put the bodysuit on after it all dried and to see how it looked, I could hardly get into it.

I poured gobs of talcum powder onto the inside of the bodysuit, to allow it to slip on easier (especially since a lot of latex bleeds through the fabric and coats the inside of the bodysuit as well) and help it keep from pulling on all my leg hairs. I eventually got it on, but it was ultra, ultra tight.

I couldn't pull the legs up high enough any longer, so that the crotch was in the right place and I felt as though I had to constantly pull up the hips in order to get it into position. I just couldn't get comfortable any longer.

So, the only way to fix this issue is to get an new bodysuit, yank off the armor from the old one and go through that God-awful process of gluing the armor back onto the new bodysuit. emoticon

That's why. emoticon

DAP is the absolute way to go... IF you're gluing down the armor. Just remember to protect your skin from burning, by wrapping yourself in Saran Wrap first. And PLEASE pay special attention to your crotch! Put on your briefs and wrap yourself good. THAN, put on another pair of briefs! The feeling of having your sack on fire, is NOT something you want to experience! I'm not kidding... PLEASE trust me on this!emoticon

After all is said and done... The armor will be on there as strong as you could expect or ever need. emoticon


ED! Thanks for the offer, my friend. If I can't get it going properly, I'll definitely be heading your way. emoticon emoticon





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