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Attaching Armor - Instructions


I know this is a dead horse issue, but I cannot make up my mind.
What is the best adhesive to use for gluing my armor onto my wetsuit? Bondini? DAP? Advice?

Also, I have read all the archives and no one ever really says where exactly to start? I thought I read somewhere to mark it on the wetsuit. Cover the inside of the chest piece then slip it on and press. But now I read more about just gluing 1 to 2 inches in?

Also, if I wear it and do the 1 to 2 inches in, should I attach the back first?

This was may [sign in to see URL] back, then the stomach, then the ribs, chest and arms? Does this sound right...

Thanks

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Re: Attaching armor


hi
i have just fastened my armour on . my suit is a Neoprene wetsuit
i packed out the wetsuit(with any old cloths!) to my measurments
then fastened armour on
i used " Bostik 2402 Adhesive" and Neoprene Glue (for edges)

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based in England but im sure there must be suppliers everywere

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Camo,

Thanks for the response. I will look into the Bostik. When you applied it, did you cover the whole inside and then slip it on and press it, or did you go a small section at a time?

I forgot to look at Artsee's page, I keep forgetting what a resource he is..emoticon

Thanks again..emoticon
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hi
no ,first put armour on ,then cowl ( to made sure logo was in correct position. pin armour to suit ,marked around armour with taylors chalk then i filled the wetsuit out to my measurements applied glue to suit and amour left it for 5 mins then placed armour on suit making sure it matched marking then went a round edge with the tube of neoprene glue ( the bostik glue gets stronger as it goes of had to leave over night
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This is how I did mine so thought I'd share it with you. (Armor onto lycra, not wetsuit though, but method is the same.)

[1] Wear your wetsuit.

[2] Get friend.

[3] Place armor on your body. Get the position right.

[4] Mark out with tailor's chalk the chest, legs and kneecaps.

[5] Get ready glue.

[6] Stay in your wetsuit, apply GENEROUSLY on the inside of your armor, leaving a gap of one inch from the edges.

[7] Stand very still and upright, get friend to press the armor on onto your suit.

[8] Keep pressing the armor onto suit for an hour. Which means you can't sit down. Just bear with it.

[9] Use towels or belts to bind the armor to your suit, or your friend will be tired of pressing it against you for an hour.

[10] Repeat process for your leg armor.

[11] Come back 24 hours later, and apply the same glue around the edges.

[12] Done. Now go out and kick-ass.

Do not gain weight or anything, 'cause you won't fit it again. Do not lose too much weight either, or it won't fit nicely as well. I lost quite a bit of weight lately, trying to prepare myself for the spidey suit. Now the bat belt is too loose.

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Thanks for the [sign in to see URL] hour?..Yikes, that's gonna be warm at this time of the [sign in to see URL] well, no one said this was going to be easy..emoticon
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Marcus thanks for the tips, Now if I only had a friend emoticon

Is the belt not adjustable?

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My only question is ...how do you guys clean your neoprene or dive skins with the rubber armor pieces glued to it after you've worn it for hours and it gets all stinky? I was going to glue mine on and then thought ,i'm going to sweat ALOT in this suit so i better not glue the armor to the dive skin.
thoughts?
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will let you know next week! i have joined the UK garrison and im doing a Movie Day at a theme Park in England.
will see how hot it gets



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so what would you use gobby, straps?.

They would be hard to hide at the sides of the torso

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yelp! i bondini'd the black elastic straps to inside sides of the 1 piece chest/bicep armor. When i had a Dyr1, thats how it came to me. So i just used the same idea with my new 89 suit.
Now, i will glue the knee armor on.I figure it will be okay and easy to reglue(if needed) when i'm cleaning it by hand in the sink with soap and water. But the leg armor i'm still thinking on it. I just want it to look accucrate as possible and not smell like BO. :lol
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When glueing the armor onto wetsuit/lycra, you wanna hold still for an least an hour before take it off. It really does require quite a bit of patience on your part. It's gonna be hot, and there'll be heat generated from the glue - so do this in a ventilated room and preferably in front of a huge fan (or two). Do you use airconditioning or the smell of the glue will get to you.

If you're doing on lycra/spandex, make sure you saran wrap/clingwrap your body, arms, and thighs. Trust me on this - I had chemical burns on the inside of my thighs.

As for the stinkiness after wearing, hang up your suit and generously powder the inside of your suit - to soak up the sweat and the smell. You can always use all sorts of sprays for it, but nothing beats a good airing. Use the sprays after the airing. Air it for a day, and out of direct sun. To minimize the onset of stinkiness in the suit, wear a tshirt inside. It WILL be completely drenched - better the tshirt then the suit.

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Re: Attaching armor...Update


OK, I used a little advice frfom a few people. I wrapped myself in saran wrap. I put on the diveskin, put on the chest and cowl and marked out the upper body. Slapped on a bunch of DAP in the red can on the armor and on the diveskin ( Then stood outside so I didnt get too much of a buzz) waited 15 minutes then slid on the armor and had my wife press it into place. Wrapped it with ropes to hold it in place while it bonded. Then I waited an hour and slid it off and I am now going around the edges with Bondini everything gel. Word of [sign in to see URL] sure you cever all your skin with saran wrap. If not, the parts of the skin it hits gets real hot for the first 5 to 10 minutes. Then you just have to stand there and feel the burn or get out. I just took the pain and got it done..emoticon

Now I have to trim up the [sign in to see URL] up and do it again...
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I told you Greg, Wax paper. Dap will melt the plastic wrap. emoticon


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[sign in to see URL],,,,, [sign in to see URL] explains the [sign in to see URL]..
It only got hot on the left side of my chest so I just walked around outside and gritted my teeth for a few [sign in to see URL]
Now I just have to look at the legs a little closer and trim tem to my size so they dont bunch up, then I am on to either the latex and plasti dip or just plasti dip. Depending on how my experimentation goes...emoticon
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Could you use the blue masking tape to hold the armor on while the glue sets? You can get it in various widths, it's the kind where you can leave it on for 7 days and it won't peel up the paint. It might work out okay for holding on the armor and not leaving any residue...

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I use the UnderArmor type stuff for my undersuit, so this would most likely work for lycra too. What I do for cleaning is just put a little lukewarm water in the bathtub, add a little mild detergent (like Woolite), hand wash, rinse thoroughly, & hang to dry. So far it has worked great! The latex armor & glue seems to be completely unaffected by it. I just towel dry the armor & let the suit air dry.
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Great advice [sign in to see URL]..emoticon
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