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Dremmeling a Cowl - Advice


I have just purchased an un finished 89 cowl and want to know the best way to clean up the join lines with the dremmel tool. There is allso a lot of rubber over spill in the open mouth area, do i sand it down or cut back. Cowl makers please help. :hug

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Re: Cowl dremmeling question?


I don't make 'em, I just wear 'em.... But, with mine I used a Dremmel to clean up my latex cowl that I got.

Is yours latex or urethane? I can't help with urethane.

With mine, I cut parts of it with an X-Acto knife and then also used a Dremel. If you're good with an X-Acto knife, cut out most of it with that... then use the Dremel to get the rest. I used the cone shaped cutter that worked really well at reaching in, to make the edges around the mouth and eyes thinner and come to a feathered "point" (like a razor) rather than an abrupt "cut" edge.

I also used the same bit to grind down the raised spots I cut off with the X-Acto knife, to make it as flush as the area around it. I had what looked like warts, in a few areas. Snipping them off with the X-Acto and cleaning it up with the Dremel, worked great. That's what made me keep going and re-work the rest of the cowl, to make the edges around the eyes and mouth look like they tapered to a point and not dig into my skin anymore.

After I was satisfied with the way it looked, I sprayed two coats of black Plasti-Dip spraypaint on the whole thing.

But as far as I DO know...

DON'T take a Dremel to a flesh cowl. The rubber won't cut AND it'll grab onto the bit and get wound around it at lightning speed... ruining the cowl.

I've heard some horror stories about that.


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Re: Cowl dremmeling question?


I cut, sanded and dremeled my suit that Paul (artsee1) made for me. He left it unfinished so I would see what it takes to finish one.

I started with small sharp scissors then moved onto the rotary sander. (like you would use for sanding down an auto) then moved onto the dremel. After that it was a little more latex then sanding, more latex then sanding until the edge was good.

It takes a long time to do it right but the results speak for themselves.
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Re: Cowl dremmeling question?


haven't seamed a cowl (don't have one anymore) but on latex props and slush castings I use a #414 1/2" felt wheel

do gross trimming with small scissors then use that bit to get the last of it and slightly blend off into the surroundings. VERY light pressure, and a face shield since hot bits of latex can fly off into your face. I usually have to wipe the surface down with some water or alcohol on a rag to clean it, since the bits also have a tendency to just migrate slightly and stick to the latex. Be careful near the ends of the piece since I've gone through that "lightning wrap" a couple of times on really small things. :cussing

Works great for me.

Tom

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Yes, be careful. A Dremel all twisted up in a batcowl ear is not fun.

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Thanks every one for your help. You can allways depend on the brothers. :dancespot

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Re: Cowl dremmeling question?


What about the light coat of vaseline along the seam?

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Just another suggestion for a dremel attachment... We use a small round brush attachment for smoothing out the latex and getting rid of bumps. Just use a light touch and don't hold the dremel down on it for more than a second or two, or you'll end up with divots in your cowl. Post pics for us when you get finished with it. :)

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I use the black nylon brush attachment, turned up on it's side like a buffer.
VERY light touch.
Then you can wipe the seam with laquer thinner to further smooth.


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BatDemon... Oh for the love of God... NEVER... EVER use Vaseline on latex!!!! :fright :fright :fright

You never heard about how Vaseline eats through condoms and makes them tear? Condoms are made out of latex rubber. Vaseline will absolutely destrioy any Batsuit made out of either latex or urethane.

I use KY Jelly to squeeze myself into the cowl. I can't imagine why you'd need it along the seam though. Do you mean as a form of lubricant?

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