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Attaching Individual Fins - Tutorial


I got the RavensWood gloves a while back and after getting home this evening, I opened up artsee's fins I got through Ebay.

I've read just about everyone's wonderful ideas/plans and results as to the attachment of fins to gloves. I've seen the custom made gloves that are just, sometimes, rediculously expensive and way out of my financial capabilities... (actually my wife would kill me :embarassed)

My favorite idea is actually Janty's...

While pouring his fins (a luxury that most REAL people don't have :lol) he places a metal female insert, into the underside of each fin... so that after it cures around the insert, there's now a place in which to screw a bolt into.

He then screws the fins to the gloves from the inside, through a series of holes (three on each glove) in both a plastic strip and the gloves.

Through the strip first... then the gloves... then into the fins. The plastic strip helps to hold the three fins "together" as one, in a row.

Brilliant.

I, myself, don't get goose bumps when I see the look of the "slit" method, where the fins go through the glove.

Since I don't, nor will I likely ever, have the time to go about doing this myself, nor will the wife allow me to spend a car payment on Batman gloves made by a pro, I got Paul's fins and I'm attempting to go about it using/stealing Janty's method. To an extent.

This is the "base" on Paul's fins...
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I'm a carpenter, so I've got the tools necessary to easily remove the base to get this...

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After using a belt sander on it, I gave it a rounded base to fit the contour of the arm...

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Tommorrow morning's project will be to take the baby to the bakery to get some fresh muffins and then to the local hardware store, so we can get six brass, double threaded inserts, so I can drill holes into the bottoms of each fin, tap the holes to receive the inserts and then finally screw the fins into my Ravenswood gloves, just like mentioned above.

I'll post more pictures when I'm done. Though, it may take until tommorrow evening, because I have to go out driving... with the wife... to look at the leaves :grumble.

It's nearing peak season here in Connecticut for the autumn colors. So, if I'm gonna' spend more money on the suit... and spend time in the shop doing something for the suit... after spending so much time doing research online for the suit... and posting pictures on BOTB for the suit... then I've gotta' go driving to look at the leaves. :ohwell

Ohhhh... the sacrifices we make for the suit! :)

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Really anxious to see how this turns out...I'm getting ready to do something very similar and knew there must be a better way. Looking forward to your update bro.

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Re: Here's my idea for gloves


That's a good idea,but if I may...
with the weight of the fins vs. the thinness of the the leather,they might tend to sag and hang. You might need to use the plate that you cut the fins off,or something similar,drill holes to match the fins and bolt the strip from inside the gloves to the fins. This will keep everything straight and sturdy.

Of course,try your way first,but consider this another option. :)

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Yeah... that's what I'm doing.

I'm sorry, maybe I didn't explain thoroughly enough. That's what I meant by a "strip" of plastic, like Janty uses. He has actually mentioned lexan plastic.

The little bolt would go through the strip of plastic with the three holes in it (one hole for each bolt and fin), then through one of the holes in the glove and then finally screw into one of the fins. All this being done from the inside of the glove of course.

You are right in what you say. If each fin were only attached individually, without a way of connecting the three of them together from the backside with a strip of plastic, they'd each flop around in opposite directions, as you say.

I'll probably round off one side of the strip, so it sets into the rounded bottom of the fins. That way it'll bring the leather tighter to the fins, giving the illusion that they are actually placed onto the glove, rather than protruding from it.

A little trial and error... A little patience... I little cursing... It'll come together.

After the leaves, though.

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Hey, if you hurry up and get your costume together, you can take of a picture with THE LEAVES in the background!
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Ohhh,OK :) My bad :doh
You're waaayyy ahead of me. :lol

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Hey, quit stealing my ideas!!!! :raiseeybrow hehehe...in all honesty, it wasn't my idea, it was the creators of the Panther suit who did it. The method that some refer to as the "Janty method" was actually the way the screen used fins were done for the last 2 Batman movies.

Here's the thing though, don't just use 1 bolt, use 2 per fin, or the fin will be able to twist. I drill the holes into the lexan plate, attach the chicago fasteners, then I simply pour the urethane into my fin mold (using something thin to push down into the mold like a paper clip, to make sure the tips on the fins come out) and then I simply press the lexan plate with the chicago fasteners into the urethane while it is wet. I then put the silicone mold in the oven for about 10 - 15 minutes at 105 degrees, which kicks off the urethane faster. Then I pull it from the mold and it's done.

When installed, each fin is exactly behind the next one, in a perfect line and without the use of glue...this is also good for if you ever screw up a fin or two, you can easily replace them.

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"After using a belt sander on it, I gave it a rounded base to fit the contour of the arm..."

 Thats the bit I needed to hear - I've been trying to work out how to do this properly for ages and - bingo! Belt sander... kudos!
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GoldenAge...

Yeah... A belt sander helped with cleaning up the bottom of the fins, but I used a combination of the table saw and my compound miter saw to get rid of the bulk of the base area. I couldn't imagine using just the sander to grind through all of it. The dust from the resin is pretty brutal. I didn't want to explain that too much originally, because most people don't have the bigger tools. If you're gonig to use a belt sander to clean up and round off the base... I recommend a 100 grit belt. Anything more course than that will grind away too much, too fast.

Until you colored those words, Mattman, I never would have seen that option up there. Very cool... a new toy to use.

I'll post picture of the fins later. I can't show you the suit yet, because I don't have anything from the Main Man yet.

Yet... From California. From you know who...

But when they do arrive... WHEN! they do... I'll certainly put up some pictures.

 

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damn, i wish i was going to see the leaves! (maybe it's a chick thing?) tell your wife i'd GLADLY take her and the munchkin out to look at leaves, and leave you to play with your belt sander and plastic strips and female inserts. :p

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