EchoSix
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Re: Here's my idea for gloves
Okay...
Here's a shot of the inserts screwed into place. Only two fins show the brass inserts, while the others show the screw that goes into them....
I didn't have to tap threads into the resin. I gave it a shot, in hopes that the threads wouldn't apply too much pressure and crack the fins, but the threads cut their way in just fine.
Do notice however, the one brass insert at the bottom, where one edge broke away while screwing it in with the screwdriver. I'm glad I decided to get a couple extra. If you've never used these things before... it's essentially a hollow screw, with "wood" threads on the outside and "machine" threads on the inside.
You drill a hole the diameter of the insert itself and use a screwdriver to screw them into the hole. The screwdriver sets into a slot at one end of the insert, as you can see at the bottom of the picture. You just have to make sure the screw threads match the threads on the inside of the insert.
I also got a few sets of madison screws with the intention of only using the screw that would thread into the brass insert, because of their very thin screw head. That way, there's no need to tape over a larger bolt or screw head that may rub into your arm or sleeve of the bodysuit.
I could have used the shaft part (the silver tube looking thing) but that would have meant epoxying the thing into the fins. The brass inserts eliminate that step. They aren't going ANYWHERE.
So with that step done fairly easily, I chose to use the plastic wall of a clear plastic container that held Zip-Ties as a flat, rigid yet flexible base for the inside of the glove. I just used scissors to cut two of them to length, laid out three evenly spaced spots for the fins and drilled holes for the screws to pass through.
I also had to drill holes through the leather gloves. I put a piece of wood inside the glove so that the drill bit would hit that, making sure I only drilled through the one side of the glove.
Here's a shot of the inside of the glove showing the plastic strip being squeezed between the screws and the inside wall of the glove, as the screws go through the hole in both the plastic and the glove and then finally are screwed into the fins on the outside of the glove...
Here's a shot of the outside, with all three fins attached.
Janty, I did take your advice about the possibility of the fins spinning on just one screw... but instead of setting two inserts per fin, I put a small drop of epoxy between the fins and the leather.
One drop infront and one in back and then I screwed the fin down tight. This shows the drop of epoxy before I screwed the middle fin down fully. A small amount of epoxy oozed out, but I cleaned that up with spirits, before the epoxy set.
Now... looking at these photos, I'm thinking, "Wow. Everything looks filthy and all scratched up." But that's just dust from my hands. Everything's all cleaned up now, without scratches or discolorations in the fins.
So here's the final shot showing the alignment of the fins...
It's actually easy to do, just a little nervracking because I've never tried it before and I've only got one shot. I'll take the gloves down the road to a tailor and ask her to bring in the gauntlet area, so it's tighter on my arm. Maybe after Halloween, I'll fabricate the forearm plates and stick those on. I'm cool with the way they look until next year. Too much to do right now.
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10/9/2004, 10:17 pm
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KnightStix
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Very nice tutorial bro...
I wish I had thought to attach the fins (I have the same ones you do) that way when I modified my licensed gloves. What I did was use the dremel with a cutting disc to cut about an 1/8" groove around the base of each fin to allow a valley for the leather to sit in when it was pressed all the way down to the base. This gives the illusion that they're attached from the outside when they're really just sticking through & glued from the inside. Mine look good, but I like the results you got a lot better - much cleaner looking. I may go back (after Halloween of course) & redo mine the way you did. For the armor plates, I used sheet metal & craft foamies.
Good stuff bro! Keep it up! :up
Oh, and you're right about the dust from the resin. Everyone (this is for the newbies), make SURE you wear a dust mask when grinding, cutting, or sanding resin! That stuff goes everywhere!
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10/10/2004, 8:29 am
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The BlackBat
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Fantastic tutorial E6.... thanks for sharing this bro. It's really going to make a difference when I put my new gloves together :up
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10/10/2004, 12:17 pm
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wow, this puppy is definitely getting filed in the "tutorials" archive, what great reference material! very cool of you to take progress shots, i'm sure they'll help tons of people out. :up
did you have fun looking at the leaves? :p
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10/10/2004, 12:38 pm
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EchoSix
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Good... I'm glad others can use it. Thanks for appreciating it. The gloves aren't the best ones for an accurate '89... but in time, they'll get there.
I took the leaves away to keep to the topic of Batman.
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10/10/2004, 1:23 pm
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thanks for the pics, they're beautiful. i've read that the leaves are so bright in new england due to their location on the planet. they receive the right dosage of waning sunlight as winter approaches to make them turn the brilliant colors they do. i've also read that the sheer amount of one kind of tree (sugar maples?) grouped together really adds to the effect. whatever it is, it's brilliant. and yes, probably a woman thing, i'm dying to go to "bridge day" at the new river gorge next week, but we're already committed to a wedding that day. they shut down the bridge to let people walk across it, and i'm sure the view is spectacular. here's a pic of the bridge to give you an idea - http://lathom.com/uba/photos/ra300037.jpg
ok, sorry, /hijack :p
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10/10/2004, 3:08 pm
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EchoSix
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It's no hijack... :)
I answered you WITH pictures. Can someone hijack their own post? :huh I don't care.
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10/10/2004, 10:06 pm
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I'm going to refer to everything as the "Janty-method" from now on
The guy is on fire and I'm afraid that if I don't... I'm gonna get burned :firemad
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10/11/2004, 5:23 am
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Broadway204
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Re: Here's my idea for gloves
I love the tutorial. I have my fins coming from JV at http://www.superherogloves.com
and was going to put them on my own gloves that I made a few years ago.
However I think I'm going for the leather gauntlets that you got.
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EchoSix
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Superhero gloves are the ones I was refering to when I spoke of "rediculously expensive". They are nice. REALLY nice... but WOW, the price.
The fins look as smoothe as you can get. I didn't know they sold only the fins. Good to know.
The Ravenswood gloves are a good buy for $32.00. They feel very comfortable... but as I wrote... the gauntlets need to be taken in. They are just way too loose. But, in time...
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