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Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?


I too have no sculpting experience or casting whatsoever....so i looked through the boards here and i'm gonna take this approach:
http://com1.runboard.com/bbrotherhoodofthebat.fthecostumevault.t306
His gaunlets are made of what is called "SINTRA"....People who make star wars costumes and props swear by it in alot of cases from what i've read....basically, its a PVC foam sheet that you can boil and then bend it to any shape you like and then put it in cool water to hold it's shape...the best thing about it, is that if you mess up the shape, you can just boil it again....I bought my sheet of Sintra a local sign supply shop and i'm gonna try and start making them this weekend....You can also order it online from this place:http://www.usplastic.com...the best thickness is .120" or 1/8"....Just read through the thread from the link i posted above and see if you wanna try that approach...hope i could help... :up and i'll post pix when i get around to that project

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Here's mine. :toocool

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They're made from Sintra.

The way I would do it would be to use sintra and add the raised details with foamies.

Here's a pattern I made for my gauntlets. http://com1.runboard.com/bbrotherhoodofthebat.fgloves.t33

In order to make the elbow end of them more accurate to the movie, you'll have to make the elbow end resemble more of a sine wave(if you're not sure how to do that, I'll see if I can modify the pattern for ya). That "sine wave" will give it a nice, flat angled end once it's rolled up. Once you have the sintra cut to that shape, form it and then sand it how you like it. Add the foamies and the fins, however you made the fins(i'm going to make mine from wood... haha). And you're all set.

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Here's mine. :toocool

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They're made from Sintra.

They way I would do it would be to use sintra and add the raised details with foamies.

Here's a pattern I made for my gauntlets. http://com1.runboard.com/bbrotherhoodofthebat.fgloves.t33

In order to make the elbow end of them more accurate to the movie, you'll have to make the elbow end resemble more of a sine wave(if you're not sure how to do that, I'll see if I can modify the pattern for ya). That "sine wave" will give it a nice, flat angled end once it's rolled up. Once you have the sintra cut to that shape, form it and then sand it how you like it. Add the foamies and the fins, however you made the fins(i'm going to make mine from wood... haha). And you're all set.



Your's was the other one person i was gonna refer to, but i couldnt remember where i saw that thread....thanks...i need that too... :up

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Cool! Glad I could be of some help. :wink

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PatrickJ...i meant to ask you...how did you close up the gauntlet?

EDIT: Scratch that...i just found your other post again... :doh

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See, there was a trick to doing that and making it look good and uniform. Okay, here goes: :p

Look at this pic:

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Along the seam there, which is opposite the fins, you can see evenly spaced holes on both sides and at each end.

I drilled those holes before forming to accomodate some plastic cable ties. I then boiled it and hand formed it, to get the holes close to each other so as to get the cable ties through them. Make them as tight as you can.

Then put the gauntlet back in the boiling water. Take it out again and tighten the cable ties. Repeat this process until it's evenly spaced along the entire seam. If you look along its length it might look like a teardrop in cross-section. For this reason put it back in the water one more time.

Take it out and then press the seam against a flat surface The elbow end should make an oval to accomodate your forearm without spreading the seam when you bend your arm.

I've noticed that the oval that the elbow end makes in cross section, should look rotated 90 degrees from the one the wrist end makes(and that one should be oriented so that the long axis of the oval goes from seam to fin). I hope I haven't confused you. :p

But anyway, get a lot of cable ties, you're gonna need them. :p

That was the way I did it. It required a lot of trial and error. Which is what makes sintra so nice, because of the ability to constantly reform it.

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PatrickJ...i meant to ask you...how did you close up the gauntlet?

EDIT: Scratch that...i just found your other post again... :doh



Too late, just did it :p It's all good.

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Thanks... emoticon

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Out of interest does anyone have a pattern for the gauntlets? What is the method of closure on the actual version? What are the dimensions of the fins?

Ken

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I'm not sure if there's an actual pattern going around, because I think most of the high-end replicas are being sculpted and cast in latex. And for that same reason, I'm thinking the method of closure is a bit different. However I think my pattern is very suitable, except the Begins style gauntlets flare out towards the elbow end more pronouncedly(if that's a word) than mine do, and then the back end, like I suggested, would be basically be a "sine wave" if the pattern is viewed in an "unrolled" manner.

If one were to want to make Sintra Begins gauntlets that flare out as much as the ones in the movie do, I'm thinking it could be done, and add some padding to the inside(maybe with foamies or something) to keep the gauntlet from rattling around while you're wearing it.

That thread link I provided a few posts ago should have the pattern I used for mine - relatively easily modified for Begins gauntlets, I should think.

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