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Even my brother who has 18" arms and 27" legs is no match to a "superhero build". Unless you are a steriod freak then you will never have the muscles that a good muscle suit will provide.





No.
Take a look a Clark Bartram, he looked great in the Spandex outfit.

If you are in great shape, it WILL show!

I've seen countless guys in Spidey suits who have trained long and hard in the gym, and they pull it off.

The guy in that pic is a pretty small guy probably not much more than 140 pounds.

The Spider-Man muscle suits look good, they were done to enhance the actors own muscles, and also to ensure that stunt players all shared the trademark build, so scenes in which stunt men replaced Maguire wouldn't be glaringly obvious.

Granted not everyone has the desire to slug it out in the gym, but with hard work you CAN sell a Spandex outfit.

You shouldnt discount or rubbish the idea, because it comes off that you are doing so simply to drum up interest for your bodysuits.

I'm sure there are others but off the top of my head, take a look at Michael Paoletti, Sean Batmann539, Brin, they all looked great in their Cloth outfits.

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This is a great topic by the way...

I think as the costume wearer (is that word?), you have to ask yourself if you're going for a realistic look, a comic book look, a movie style look, or a great hybrid style look.

I think many bro's have pulled off each look very well and it again all boils down to your personal preference.

I liked the realistic look of the Batman Year One style where you can tell that Batman is in good shape but it doesn't necessarily look like the batsuit is painted on.

If you like the comic batsuit where it looks like it's painted on and shows every single muscle in perfect form, go with that.

I actually like the muscle look as well because I have an '89 movie style suit on the way.

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Exactly. there are alot of different ways to do the cloth costume look. This one would be for the person that wants that "just stepped out of a comic book look" almost too good to be true.

I will show two examples of what I mean about the muscles not showing through the costumes.

I am using these only for illustrative purposes.

The first one is from Artsee1's own web page. It shows the difference between not having a muscle suit and having one. The only problem and Paul, if your out there interject please, is that the muscle suit becomes mostly hidden by the cloth. It is a shame as the muscel suit is one of the most awsome sculptures I have ever seen.
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The second one is from a Spider-Man costumer. It shows a customer that is obviously very large muscle-wise but again the definition is hidden under the suit.


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I am not trying to "drum up" business for my own type of suit and to tell the truth it may never even be made. I am just looking to the brothers for the feedback that I cannot get from "normal" people. Most people don't know anything about costumes or what works and what doesn't. I respect the opinions on this board.

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Stamp - So you want to make a fabric suit whereby the muscles sort of "suck" in the fabric around them?

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Exactly. If there is a way to do it the muscle definition would show and it would be real different from all of the fabric suits I have seen.
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Christ, that's a hard one. This is probably why the studios decided to go with the sculpted rubber route, instead.

You can't really mould fabric, can you? All I can think of is somehow carefully sticking the fabric to each muscle of the muscle-suit underneath, but that probably wouldn't produce very satisfactory results.

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  I think it all boils down to what we can look good in. It started out, we all like the latex suits, because we can mold the muscle give us the illusion of looking like a super hero. But while a cloth suit is more realistic, it's less forgiving. That's why I want to make the muscle suit, to get back that illusion.

  just my 2 cents.


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Now imagine getting the best of both worlds. The look of a classic cloth suit with the muscles of a latex one.....
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Now imagine getting the best of both worlds. The look of a classic cloth suit with the muscles of a latex one.....



I have a suggestion with regard to the kind of "Vacuum Formed" Cloth type muscles mentioned.

Have ever seen the cheap fabric Batman and Robin suits available? They are about $50.

They are made of polyester I believe, and feature sponge muscles underneath/imbedded in the fabric.

I bought one of the costumes a couple of years back, and the fabric was glued straight onto the foam muscles.
There were no creases or rolls, it had the kind of vacuum formed look mentioned. With a better more naturalistic muscle suit beneath it could have looked pretty good.

Not sure how this was achieved, probably in a factory process, but the bottom line is, it is do-able.

Perhaps byuing one of these suits would be a good idea simply to dissect and see how it was done.

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  I've tried using those suits-- the larges are to small and the extra larges are huge. I used a superman chest-- and just wore it under a suit with the shirt open. looked ok.

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