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im working on building a batmobile 89 style, and in the end it will be street legal, but i ahve a question for anyone who might have seen the car in person, if u seen the car in person did u perhaps see how they did the windsheld wiper rig? i know what it looks on the outside, but im talking about inside.

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I don't know first hand, but I was told by a friend who spent a lot of time inside and out of one of the Returns cars that is was not actually functional. It had to be moved by hand. Here is exactly what he said,
"The wipers in the Returns car where not functional. They didn't look too bad. They were put on a small track system and could actually be moved from side to side by hand. Somehow a drive system would have to be built."


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What an undertaking! Good luck bro and please post pics as you progress on your project.

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i had a feeling someone would tell me there not functional, its what i orginaly though, not that huge of a deal, i can rig something up, i always do, lol. i had a few ideas i just wanted to check they dident have better way first.

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thanks, u can see pics of the 1/4th test model im building to get the measermetns worked out and a feel for the job to save money when making the full scale, pics are located on my site [sign in to see URL] i post new pics when i bored for i finsh another section of the car.
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Good luck to you! How long is it going to take you to finish? I hope it comes out as well as you plan. By the way that's a cool website.

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I had read that the wipers on the onstar car were functional and that they use the front head light wipers used on Volvos.
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thunder cracker,
thanks,
at this point im not sure how long it will take me to finsh. i made some times frames in the past but onething or another poped up. right now im having trouble with the back, but i hope i got it all worked out last night, once i get that part done the rest should fall in place a little faster, if so i might have the 1/4th done in oct and have the full scale started in nov, from there im giving my self at the most 2 years to complete her and read to go on the road.
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Very cool pics of your progress. Nice work.

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thanks, i wait for the day when the full scale is done and on the road, it will have external speakers that i can switch on and off, i just want to drive around town for awhile with the batman theme song blasting on the external speakers, ill have a friend walking around town to catch peoples reaction. ill have have mike's and cammras hiddion on the outside of the batmobile to catch peoples reactions when its just sitting somewhere parked. but the one of the first thing me and a firend wants to do when shes done and dress up as batman and nightwing and go to the mcdonalds drive though and order 2 kids happymeals. then when i park it someplace and theres people around it just walk up and act like im one of them admireing it, grab my key chain without people seeing me press the buttin to start the engine and say "well i gotta go" then press the other buttion to open the canopy
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That is really cool.

Awesome site, too!
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Oh man! That sounds so cool. I would love to see that, it would just be the funniest thing. emoticon

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wel when i do these, they most likly will be filmed, if so then i plan to upload them to my site.
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the car i saw shortly after the movie came out(89) had the wiper running on a track system. functional or not? it looked to run from side to side(linear) not in a radial fashion loke conventionl wipers. i forget what the onstar car had,if they were changed. headlight wipers would work, you'd probably need 2 pair running from the top.

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I too shared the same dream only with the "other" car.
  Some points about the 89' car you will want to consider if you haven't (just in case).
 The windshield on the original was curved, not just a flat piece of lexan bent around from left to right, but curved from top to bottom.
  If you use polyester resin you must be mindful of gradual warpage particularly of areas that stick out without much mechanical support such as fenders.
   Better if you can make a chassis that is ground up rather than pilfering two GM frames as they did in the original (time was an issue there). The big thing is that this thing is 141 from axel to axel. hit a tree with this, and your front end will be touching your rear end. Chassis design on this will be hard because the lenght of this piece and the basic design will make it easy to be twisted, i.e. going over a bump or small hill can easily twist the entire car if your chassis isn't built correctly. On a movie set, or theme park this is not an issue.
   two ways to cast a finished shell. one is the canopy, then the rest of the car, the other is do the front and the rear separately. This can be disasterous if any warpage, or the mold gets sprung because of the weight of [sign in to see URL]. the two halves won't line up.
   You want the body to be thick enough to almost stand on. this also gives a good impression opon being up close to the car.
   Drafting the mold is tricky on this piece. certain areas can easily form mechanical locks which will make gettin the mold off a real headache.
   This car is huge. 400 sq. cubic ft. That would be the amount of resin, and glass you will need to cover it. then the mold will be even more. Your mold has to be extremly rigid otherwise the integrity of the shape will be compremised.
   Also to consider is how you will cast the two fins on the back. Think of reaching in a mold with your arm and laying in gel coat, and glass. Ain't gona happen that way. you got less than a foot of space.
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The fins are an issue that I have given some thought to and it seems they would have to be made separately in halves. Like you said, lay-up we be close to, if not impossible there. There are different ways of going about it, (yes, we are getting a little off topic, I know...) You could make the whole rear in separate pieces and then splice them together or you could make just the fins in separate pieces which would have to be attached later.
This picture shows the rear being made in separate pieces.
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Here is a site where someone is using the foam method [sign in to see URL]

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thanks ed! i've been looking allover for that site.

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you are one talented individual! good luck!

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young bat,

i already gave the whole thing thoughts, i worked on plans for 4 yearw hile reading up on building cars, the windshild, willb e custome toold and made of glass, by a guy i know. the body will be fiberglass and very thick, i want to be able to walk all over the car without seeing bending anywhere.
the chassies will be a donor chassis and extended by my bro in law who is a profesinoal welder. the batmobile is around 22 feet long which is close to the leanght of some hearse my dad owned and i drove, i will also shorten my full scale car about a foot or 2, so im not to worryed there. there will also be hydrolics on the car, to rasi it up when driving, for such thigns as speed bumps or drive ways that go form flat to angle in a instant. the way im making the full scale is kinda like my 1/4th, but insted of casing it im gonna cover the whole thing wtih some fiberglass, flip it over and gut it and lay down more fiberglass inside, then flip it back over and carve in detail then cut out sections. later on if wb lets the copyright on it slip i might cast mine the real way and sell shells. i got ever swtich in the batmobile preforming an action in or on the car. the back vents area will kind of slide up then open in 2 halves side ways to a back window, on the sides of the canopy on the car body are panels taht will flip up and have side view mirrors for driving, the guns, (which a cop siad if he saw would be a bad thing) will shoot paint balls for fun, the doors on them wont be like the movies, i dont want them flying off, so isnted it will fold open in half. theres a lot more i have planed for the car tht would take a long time to write, lol. so ill just say when the car is doen ull see how much there is, but i also plan to build a cacoon for the car, naturle not a working on, more like a protective shell that can be placed over the car when not in use. (shell will not be portable)
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Thing you gotta remember about "splicing" or adding on fresh resin to cured resin is that there WILL be no chemical bond. I would suggest that for a more long lasting joint that you make the outside of the fins a separate part of the mold(difficult to put in words, I'd have to draw a picture) then gel that part, glass it, then trim it back, slop on some resin on the edge, and clamp it into the rest of the mold. so you do this while you are glassing the rest of the car. REAL critical is that once you start glassing you should not stop until it is done. If you press your finger in the resin, and its completly dry -- You're done. Other wise over time what will happen is that if the pieces flex any, you will hear little cracking noises, then eventually it will separate. All that laminating resin and gel coat stuff will not make a chemical bond once it goes completely dry.
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well see it works out for me, the top i will lay by hand, its not gonna be that thick of an outter shell just enought to hold it, there will be a bounding box built around to help support it, when i flip it over and cut it i will use my fiberglass chopper and spray a nice thick coat, the idea i thought of since the outter caot will be nice and smooth is to add a relase agent to it, that way when im done spreying the inside i can go back and cut off the thin outter layer and then i wont have an extra outter layer, some would say why not just go ahead and cast it, becasue that will cost more if all i end up building is one. my methods may seam illogical to some, but i have thought everthing though to the point where i dont foresee any probs other then modeling. but i have done multi layer on other test props, such as ghostbusters, stargate and a few otehrs and havent had no real problems yet wtih my methods.
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Hmmm, I haven't thought about using a chopper gun for that area... I'll have to give that some thought.


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chopper guns are fun, i love mine, its a eletrical one, but after i get a new aircompressior i want to get a reguler air one.
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They're about $300 but would be nice to have for quick lay-ups.

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they are well worth it, i got my first one 2 years ago, befor that i did all fiberglass by hand, when i first used my chooper i was like spiderman using his spiderpowers for the first time, by the way havent had time to e-mail u lately but watned to say love the progress u made on ur bat-cart
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Thanks, buddy.
I've been checking your site everyday as well. Can't wait to see some new pics!

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