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Give it shot and see what you come up with.
This is just what I came up with,but I'm sure there's a better way. There's always more than one way to do things. :p

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Man, I used to think the 89 batarang was a piece of crap, but now that there is an actual folding one it's pretty damn cool.

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Blackwood Bat, Since you already told me alot of advise i hope i can ask more questions.

Anyway here it goes... What material is the best to cast up a Batarang?

And the batarang you have done, is it two sided ?

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This is cast in resin from 'Smooth-On',but there many different resins and some are better than others.
I really don't know the best stuff to use. I'm very new at this. :wink I used what was available to me,but I'm sure there's better stuff out there.

This rang is one sided and that's also how the original was. I'm not sure how to go about doing a two-sided rang.

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Ok thanks.
When the times come when im gonna do a mold and cast something i do as you said, I'll go to the hobby store and talk to them about molding and i can probably talk about resin and stuff...
My english suck, so to be sure, Resin its some kind of rubber/plastic material right ? emoticon

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Oh yes,sorry,resin is a type of hard plastic. :wink It holds detail really well and is very strong.
Lots of garage kits and figure kits are made from resin,as well as many other "off the shelf" items in stores.

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Great thanks again... Im learning new stuff every day now hehe...
If you want to know... Im 16 years old and it have to start somewhere emoticon
My dream is to do my own cowl... And a whole suit.

Thanks again Blackwood Bat for all help.


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No problem bro.
I'm 40,so you a got a 24 year headstart on me. :lol
I didn't start sculpting until I was in my 30s. Stick with it and you'll do fine,but be patient and start small.

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I have read where Evans talked about a form of rubber and that they referred to it in the shop as "bungie."

(It is funny to think of a time when "bungie" wasn't yet in the common lexicon.)

After reading that, I had always pictured in my head that it was done basically the way that John is doing it.

However, it was speculated here before about the sheet of rubber covering the flat back half and upon watching the movie again, I thought that was probably the way it was done judging by the way it is clearly a half-sided rang around the thug's ankles.



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Yeah,that was talked about before. In fact it was me who brought it up. :p
Up until Thursday,I was going to try rubber glued to the back and front,then rubber bands done the same way as I did the bungee cord,then slits in the sides for rubber pieces. Then I thought of stripping bigger bungee cord and using what was inside somehow,then saw 1/4" thick bungee,but it was too big to fit through the tubing without a major struggle. The tubing was also an after thought;I was going to drill trough,but instead came up with the tubing idea in the mold. Almost gave up on that until I saw 3/16" bungee and that worked perfectly. A lousy 1/16" can make all the difference.
Also Tony,the rang around the dudes leg is a different,solid prop that doesn't fold.
Again,everyone,thanks for your words of encouragementemoticon

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Instead of glueing the bungee cord inside of the end resin wings, can't you just cast the resin directly over the bungee? I might not work as well, but just a thought.

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It would be more work and wouldn't really be any better. The problem is,even if I could,I'd only be able to do one side because the cord has to be fed through to the other sections.
I did think of that,but it would be more trouble than it's worth. :wink

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I found Super Sculpey on a swedish site, im gonna order that clay.
Im still looking for material to make a mold though.

Would be alot thankful if someone gave me a name of a good mold material, rubber like that Blackwood Bat used.

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Here's a few shots of a new one. I reworked the original and made new molds. Although by appearance it probably doesn't look any different,it has certain overall improvements.
This is cast in tan resin,but painted black with blades added just to see what it would look like finished. I think I found a local source for black resin,but I won't know for sure until this week.

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Wow! Very slick John! Nice job :up

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Wow, John, to see a finished piece is absolutely AMAZING!!!! Did you mold it up? A kit might be an idea...

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Yeah,its been molded,but I made a new set of molds as I stated in my last post.
I made about 6 or 7 so far,plus a bunch of parts,but all the others are experiments,so this one is after all the problems were worked [sign in to see URL] from the colored resin.
The others are basically trash,since not alot can be done with them.


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 :doh

With pics like that, I have some trouble with the whole concept of the words. :p Great job, John!!!

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i want one!

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Any way I could get the "trash"?
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You are moving forward with leaps and bounds brother John.
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h o l y c r a p !
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Thanks so much guys. emoticon
Darkphoenix,there's really nothing that can be done with those extra parts or even the complete [sign in to see URL] are quite literally TRASH.
I know you probably think you can salvage something from them,but believe me its just a pile of crap and not worth the effort and I can fix almost anything. :p
You can't polish a turd:lol

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 :dropjaw WOW dude you sure you made that i think you stoll it from Batman :p or he through it at you and you keeped it dude you rock :band

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Quote:

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I didnt get acces to post in Sculpture pics.
So i ask here.

Blackwood Bat what kind of clay are you using for your Sonar project? is it a clay i have to bake when im done sculpting.

What do you use as a ground, metal strings or something?

i wanna do my own figures emoticon
could need all help i can get.
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The only clay I've used,aside from some pottery clay in the past,is Super Sculpey.
So,the Sonar sculpt is Super Sculpey,so yes it'll get baked.
The head is solid clay. The body has a wire armature going through [sign in to see URL] a skeleton for support. Then the clay is added and built up and fleshed out.

Base on the way I sculpt and seeing pics of other peoples work,I don't do it the correct way. Most other sculptors mount a rod to a board and attach the wire armature to that. I just pick it up and sculpt.

I may not be the best person to ask advice on this subject since I don't actually know how to [sign in to see URL] joke. There are better ways and better techniques that I'm not familier with and more formal ways of doing it. Not that there's a right way or wrong way,but I think you might find more helpful info on the internet than what I can offer. I don't think I can teach it since I don't know exactally how I do it. After a few hours it just turns into something,but I'm not sure how it ended up that way.
I'll help you with what I can,but I don't know how much that will be.

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