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Registered: 12-2004
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I've looked through the posts here and I've gotten some beginner videos from Monster Makers and I was hoping to have some questions answered.

- When you guys sculpt a chest piece do you always work off of a lifecast of yourself? What about the leg armor? Is it really necessary?

- I remember reading that the clay should be at least 1/2 inch thick for cowls because of shrinkage; what about for chest pieces? Do I sculpt larger?

- The beginning mask video I got: Prosthetic Make-Up for beginners which covers creating very thin latex pieces. Does this same process apply toward the thicker latex masks? Any other recommendations on information sources? (videos/books)? The video was very informative and very scary!

- Any other advice? I've read through every post I could find on this. I've wanted to try this for years but its a hard hobby to get into! I'm still at the 'sponge' level where I keep soaking up information.

Thanks guys! :help

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Re: Sculpting questions...


Life casts are usually used, so the finished product matches the shape of your own body.

I use duck tape dummies of myself since they are easier to make.

Yep the sculpt should be slightly larger than the intended result.

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An alternate would be great because I'm not sure I know anyone who would even be willing to attempt a lifecast.

Duct tape dummies? How do you create those?
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I'm not sure how to get around the face cast problem, I know Bob Dullam just sculpts his own face and uses it, so I'll probably end up doing that.

For body casts, I use duck tape dummies, here is a tutorial http://www.alleycatscratch.com/lotr/makingem/DuctDummy.htm

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i am in the same boat as you I started doing my first sculpt in October for a batman begins cowl. I have not seen any videos yet but have read alot of stuff from this forum and a few others on the various ways to create a latex mask. I have to stay its tough going but when you sculpt something and it actually comes out better than you hoped its great. I started by using wet clay and did not know that you needed to keep it really wet to avoid cracks, first attempt just cracked up and so did I. Then spoke to local art shop and they suggested this french clay(cannot remember the name) and that is what I have used for the cowl, its wax based and fairly easy to work with.

Heres a fews pics of the cowl so far, its has been changed about 50 times so far and is still not right, patience is the key i feel.

http://www.ofoto.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?showSlide=true&Uc=12ibh6la.118n1xr2&Uy=p88q9q&Ux=0

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I just used water based clay and kept it wet, I was working on the sculpt for about a year and no problems.

On the other hand, the clay was "New Clay", its a water based clay with nylon fibers mixed in to stop it from cracking.

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Water base clay has a tendency to dry out. But, its great to work with and if you decide to look for "WED Clay".

Some members prefer oil base clay like Roma Plastine. Which is very good to work with and you never have to worry about it drying out.

Just some thoughts :wink

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I hope to someday get into the sculpting thing. Damian, that's awesomne work. You mean to tell me this is your 1st attempt at making a cowl? If so, I can't wait to see your later attempts.

Frank
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Paul suggested Roma Plasilina #3 to me some time ago. I havent actually started sculpting but I would give it a try anyway :up

Dude.

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just remember to go sulferless int he ROMA if your going to be using silicon molds otherwise the sulfer will burn the molds

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