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Registered: 10-2006
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Gluing Urethane to Neoprene with Aquaseal


As some of you may know I ran into a big problem when I tried to glue my suit the first time. I used a slow setting superglue and more or less once I pulled on the suit...the neoprene ripped. Not good.
So I have a new suit. I have not glued onto that yet, but I did cut a bunch of samples from my ruined suit to test glues on.
I picked up a tube of aquaseal from my local dive shop. For this test I did not use the cotol-240 that came with it. I used roughly 1 square inch piece of urethane on a good size piece of neoprene. After 36 hours give or take( i do live in a low humidity environment) I can say this glue is holding fairly well. If I pulled on it fairly hard it would come of, as superglue would. But I have alot of flexibility in the neoprene still, which I never had using superglue. I am not saying this is the cure all for glue, but I bet this will work great for the knees, legs and arms where there is more flexibilty. I am not done with these tests...I will keep you informed.

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Re: My review of aquaseal using urethane and a triathlon wetsuit


As quickly as I wrote the last post, I decided to pull the armor off to test what happens.
It took some effort to get the piece off. All that happened was each side has glue residue on it. If it was superglue it literally would have torn the neoprene away from the fabric on the otherside. I used the thickest part of my old suit...so far this is looking good. I move in one week. I will try it out at my new place with the cotol, which speeds up cure time and possibly with one of my knee pieces.
I also noticed that they make a contact cement for neoprene. I am going to order a can of that to see how it turns out. That has a faster set time.

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Re: My review of aquaseal using urethane and a triathlon wetsuit


good luck on the research bro.
and thanks :)

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Thanks for being our guinea pig. Appreciate it. emoticon

I'll be following this thread closely. My concern with Aquaseal has always been that the set time may be too long for one being glued up while wearing the suit.

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you could also try something called urebond(sp?) from smooth-on. It's a glue used for , well, gluing urethane...havn't tried it myself, but when I start running urethane armor this is what I'll be using

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Quote:

reevz666 wrote:
...but when I start running urethane armor this is what I'll be using



Can hardly wait for that day. :wink

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Re: My review of aquaseal using urethane and a triathlon wetsuit *update*


I picked up the contact cement today by the same company. I followed the instructions. But it does not adhere to urethane. It stays stuck to it, but if you pull it, it comes off but leaves no residue. And it is thick and kind of messy.
But to glue down a latex suit it would probably work great.
Ok next I am going to try the cotol with the aquaseal again.
And I am going to try flexible CA.
  
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Great thread!
Great research!
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Thanks. I am just trying to find something that works for my scenario and so noone else ruins their Neoprene wetsuits. Superglue works great on thinner neoprene, but on something thick it just eats the suit away. Actually I think what happens is the glue dries brittle and leaves no flexibility for the armor to slightly move, so it rips the neoprene. Now granted, I now have some very viable solutions for fixing my undersuit should it rip again...
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Testing some superglue tonight. I realized I probably made the mistake of using too much the first time I glued my suit.
No conclusions yet...but so far it looks like I will be:
Using Aqua Seal for the knees
Superglue and aquaseal for the legs depending on the flexibility I need.
And superglue for the chest and arms. The arms are really what I am most concerned about, but on a Triathlon suit this is usually the thinist and most flexible part of the whole thing.
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