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TDK's Ribbed Undersuit; links, suggestions and discussion.


I already posted this on the RPF, but thought I could bring a bit of focus to this aspect of the suit over here:

Beneath the mesh of the Dark Knight suit is a ribbed undersuit, as seen here:

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Now, I'm having the hardest time finding this stuff.

From what I can tell it's simply black poly or poly-blend ribbing, but I can't track down anything similar.

Have any of you run across this fabric before, or have a hunch where it may be located?


The undersuit is a major contributer to the appearance of the suit. It creates contrast, giving a sharper appearance to the mesh, and, through the ribbing, creates depth. It also helps to disguise the contours of the body and give a uniform appearance to the mesh that would otherwise wrinkle and fold.

Anyone have a lead?

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Im not seeing 2 suits here. I think the shadowing is giving you that effect. According to that documentary that was on the History Channel, this was simpy a stretch lycra mesh material. Kind of like a shark suit, only not as thick.

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it's def. corrugated...

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Isn't there already at least 1 thread dedicated to this topic?
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It's running the opposite direction from the mesh, it isn't the shadow.

And as far as the "Batman Tech" special covering the suit:

"The separate plates of armor of the new Batsuit are anchored on an elastic mesh."

That's all they have to say about the real world construction. Regardless of the mesh, there's a suit underneath that, and as can be seen it is a ribbed material. Any other appearance is indeed caused by the mesh's shadow.

And there are a couple threads dedicated to the mesh itself, but none about the real undersuit.
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The mesh material has been enough of a headache for me to find, that ribbed material is going to be a nightmare. As much as I want to be authentic, I'm wondering if its worth it?

If so I have no idea where to begin. My original plan was to track down the mesh and interface that over the lycra, but this ribbed material is going to be something else.

Looking at it I wonder if the ribbing was only used in the areas of the costume that required more movement such as the shoulders, abdominal area, and hips. Ribbing following the contours of the body is good for that. You are right that it does provide depth. I just don't know where I'm going to find any.

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ya the mesh was mainly eas(e)ish but this stuff is going to be a pain :cussing :eyes

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You know what the funniest thing is? Despite the difficulties, we are going to identify every material and found piece on this suit sooner rather than later, and despite the efforts of the Batsuit team to make this thing near-impossible to replicate we're going to do it before the end of the year.

Any disagreements on the material type? By the way it's reflecting the camera flash, I strongly feel it's polyester or a poly-blend. If we pinpoint the fabric type, we can then work on tracking down the proper ribbed type we need.
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you could always MAKE it ribbed,
i've seen it done, and if we can't find pre-ribbed poly-spandex, we can try and replicate it.
granted that would be the most labor-intensive thing most of us has ever done, but whatev. emoticon

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Is it ribbed for his pleasure???

:dropjaw

Sorry I just had to say that!

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 :lol nice one

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I would say if you are looking at the under suit then I would look a product from Spandex House called mole skin. It is a 4 way stretch Lycra that is very comfortable. Then get a pattern for a one piece body suit. Mole skin has the look you are looking for.

Hope this was a help.
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Juano found something

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it may just be leggings but kinda close

i'll do more searches

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Ok i'm unsure about this one, but its ribbed and colored the same style, but it also has that mesh below with other fabrics

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Has anyone worked with either of these? If they're not the material used, they're close, I think.
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Quote:

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I would say if you are looking at the under suit then I would look a product from Spandex House called mole skin. It is a 4 way stretch Lycra that is very comfortable. Then get a pattern for a one piece body suit. Mole skin has the look you are looking for.

Hope this was a help.
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I think this looks pretty decent...

Mesh

You would need something to wear under it, but that doesn't look bad at all.

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"something to wear under it" is exactly what this thread is about. There is another thread devoted to the mesh material... I agree, that the two ribbed materials shown by ILLJuan may be "close enoughs" The exact material is ideal, but if it can't be found, or is too expensive, this may be a decent alternative.
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YAY emoticon JuanO found close enoughs

i'll do some more searches for it

the material can't be that hard to find

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Nice nice it has the colors I want to Black, Red and Blue... I hope when we find the real stuff they come in at least Red.

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This suit is a huge pain. No offence to anyone working on [sign in to see URL] all this effort to find one piece of what looks to be an expensive puzzle just blows my mind.
I just think aobut hard it is glueing down [sign in to see URL] less making a ribbed [sign in to see URL] mesh over the top of [sign in to see URL] the seperate armor pieces. Wow. Anyone who is undertaking such a huge effort I applaud you. I say forgo the ribbed undersuit idea and maybe just focus on the mesh...
Well unless your Bob D of course. He will have a perfect one. Lol.
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I'm thinking about using sewing the mesh in sections onto a body suit. The armor will be blank so i can glue the armor to the undersuit. Thats the plan I have atm. It might change later on.

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This suit is a huge pain. No offence to anyone working on [sign in to see URL] all this effort to find one piece of what looks to be an expensive puzzle just blows my mind.



I spend more time on the RPF than here, so seeing someone boggled by trying to be screen accurate is messing with me something fierce.

I mean, I bought one of the $20 DST TOS Comms, and I still had to make a new moire, track down and attach some T-Jet hubs, and I've yet to but still plan on nabbing some radio mesh, metal moire ring/control plate/mid plate, filling in the try-me tab slot and spilling some solder on the grid for that proper old school look. And I'm prepping myself to do much of the same for the $30 Tric popping up in Sep..

When I finally have a completed Batman suit, I don't want people to look at it and go "That looks like Batman", I want them to see me and think "That's the !@#$ Batman".
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Hey neon I wasnt trying to rain on your parade...
I was just being realistic. It seems to be a huge pain in the butt.
I was giving an opinion. Personally I don't care what people think of me when I am in my suits. As long as the kids down at the hospital like them that is all I care about. If I was in a comic suit they would think I was Batman.
I am all for being screen [sign in to see URL] I am chiming in because I know how obsessive I got about my Bob [sign in to see URL] making it perfect and now I am back to square one. I have my own idea for my TDK suit when and if I decide to do [sign in to see URL] least for right now I don't see myself spinning my wheels looking for some ribbed material that was probably a one off material that the experts who made the suit came up with. Just like the cape...
I still have yet to see that pulled off. We have material thats close but there was a brother working on getting one made but I havent heard about it in a long time.
And I made the comment to him also that I thought he was going through a massive headache of trying to get a flocked nylon cape when in the end you will feel like you wasted alot of time and resources on it and some kid just spilled kool-aid on it.
So again not to rain on your [sign in to see URL] just wanted to offer some constructive feedback about it. Hopefully you get it done by Halloween.
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I've gone cheap on stuff before, but you always end up upgrading. Might as well do it right the first time. Good luck you guys, and much appreciated.

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Any updates on this topic?

If memory serves me right, someone mentioned the possibility of the undersuit being ribbed in certain spots. Well if that is indeed the case, than I may have a possible solution:

Recently I was looking through my Batman Anthology special feature discs and came across the Smashing Pumpkins music video on the Batman and Robin disc. I immediately noticed the suits that Billy Corgan and Co. were wearing - greyish material with noticeable ribbed sections.

Just a thought.

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Neon Sentry wrote:

I already posted this on the RPF, but thought I could bring a bit of focus to this aspect of the suit over here:

Beneath the mesh of the Dark Knight suit is a ribbed undersuit, as seen here:

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Now, I'm having the hardest time finding this stuff.

From what I can tell it's simply black poly or poly-blend ribbing, but I can't track down anything similar.

Have any of you run across this fabric before, or have a hunch where it may be located?


The undersuit is a major contributer to the appearance of the suit. It creates contrast, giving a sharper appearance to the mesh, and, through the ribbing, creates depth. It also helps to disguise the contours of the body and give a uniform appearance to the mesh that would otherwise wrinkle and fold.

Anyone have a lead?



I know this is a very old thread, but I think I may have found what Neon was referring to way back when. I was in a local Fabricland about a week ago looking at material to do a comic suit. While looking through their "active wear" material section I came across a few materials that are very stretchy and have a decent sized ribbing going on. If I remember correctly they are a brownish colour so they'd definitely have to be dyed dark grey.

Looking at Neon's picture at the beginning of the thread, it looks like the base suit is a dark grey and the mesh is a bit lighter.

When I'm in this store next time I'll be sure to jot down the material info. But for now, check active wear materials in your fabric store.

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I have seen the TDK suit in person twice. Total time frame spent looking at the suit is over 30 minutes. It is NOT two suits. There is no ribbed undersuit. It is a very thick mesh suit. I have said in other threads about how I have literally been less than an inch away from the suit. It is on display at Warner Bros in Burbank CA. No barriers, no glass, no anything. So if anyone is trying to be screen accurate...
it is not mesh on top of anything. It is thick mesh only.
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There has to be some sort of backing or else we'd be seeing Bale's skin lol :rollin

I understand what you are saying about it just being mesh - the tarmac and scorpion motocross gloves are made with a mesh that has a backing built right into it. But I have yet to find a way of getting that type of mesh. In fact, that type of mesh goes by several different names (pending on who you talk to or what Chinese exporting site you get onto) which just makes the search far more difficult. Its why many bros have been using adult sex stockings on top of a solid undersuit.

There's likely no way of getting a truly screen accurate suit for this IMO. But I do think Neon was on to something

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There's likely no way of getting a truly screen accurate suit for this IMO. But I do think Neon was on to something

 



He wasn't on to something. :lol
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If I ever do this suit I am going to simulate it. Basicly I am going to spray whatever fabric I use with a template that looks like mesh. That way it is less material and it creates a similar look.
Even my girlfriend upon seeing the suit for the first time was like "it seems so overly complicated"
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