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Outstanding casting choices. Boy I sure wanna see this play.
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REAL nice work on both costumes. :up

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Everything looks fantastic. My only suggestion is get Nightwing a different mask. Other than that, they are all perfect. Love that Robin costume.

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Great stuff, and welcome to the board!
I hope the show goes great!
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I have to ask. Where did the catwoman cowl come from? It looks perfect.
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Welcome to the Cave, all of the suits are TOP NOTCH sir. :up very nice work...

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Wow love the costumes, I especially love the utility belt, where did you get the pouches and how did you recolour them?
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I have to ask. Where did the catwoman cowl come from? It looks perfect.




Thanks! Yes, I love the Catwoman cowl also. I must once again give credit to cowl-maker extraordinaire Shawn Reevz.

In our school play, his work is being worn by The Batman, Catwoman, AND Batgirl! :up

I did, however, have to cut and extend the chin strap of the Catwoman cowl because for whatever reason, Shawn sculpted the Catwoman cowl a bit small for an adult female head.

But once I performed the chin strap operation, and carefully trimmed away all of the bulk thickness from the eye and mouth openings of the cowl it became super-duper comfortable to wear for our actress! emoticon





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Wow love the costumes, I especially love the utility belt, where did you get the pouches and how did you recolour them?




For whatever reason, The Batman's Utility Belt pouches were NOT easily forthcoming, for this project, I'm afraid. Indeed they were a source of considerable STRESS, even:

At first, I fashioned the pouches on my own, using a pattern that I originated. They looked VERY good. Unfortunately the vinyl that I used was of a very low grade, and it actually peeled off of its own backing very easily with repeated movement of the flap lid, and also at all the stitch points. UN-ACCEPTABLE, since I wanted these costumes to be strong and durable.

Next, In an attempt to lighten my costume workload (and meet our costume fittings deadline), I turned to a fellow costumer who promised to be able to help me by making pouches on a sewing machine with thick, durable, strong grade vinyl / pleather. I sent him money and placed an order, and he completely flaked... NEVER having delivered the pouches, and darn-near disappearing with my money. In fact, to date, I've only gotten most of my money back from him, but not all. I'm not sure, but I believe the individual may even be a member of BOTB message boards. A VERY unpleasent situation which wasted a LOT of precious time! :down

In the end, with our deadline for final Costume Fittings looming, I bit the bullet and purchased the DC Direct Justice League of America Trophy Room Batman Modern Utility Belt Prop. This was an expensive prop at $230 (shipped), and not even wearable (since the belt band was way too short). But it did include EIGHT (8) beautifully-made utility belt pouches.

The way I justified the expenditure was that I was purchasing eight really nice-looking ammo-pouches for the Bat costume Utility Belt at $[sign in to see URL] each.

During my online resesearch on the cost of purchasing French Army Ammo pouches (the closest acceptable pouch I was willing to use), I discovered that the price would have been (at minimum) comparable to what I spent on the DC Direct pouches (in some cases much more)... and those pouches would have only been used and somewhat worn-looking since they were antiques.

When the package arrived, I was thrilled with the pouches. They were all a uniform height, and beautifully stitched and assembled. Each one featured a snap closure on the flap lid, and contained a pre-cut piece of black foam to keep its shape. Even though all the pouches were the same uniform height two of them were narrow-styled, and the other six were much more square. In my photos, the student and the planning mannequin are both wearing the narrow/styled pouches in the front. But any placement combination of the two sizes looks really good to my eyes.

Now unfortunately, despite how happy I was to receive these pouches, my overly-critical eye was un-able to let three things "slide" if they were to be employed for use on my Bat uniform:

The first thing I was not crazy about was the tiny little Bat-emblems printed on the round snaps of the pouch lids.

Umm... no.



The second "adjustment" that these pouches needed for use on my Bat-Utility Belt was a re-positioning of the belt loops on the backs of each one.

You see, these pouches were designed to hang bottom-justified from whatever belt strap they are used with, so the straps are located along the upper half of the backs of each pouch. This gives them a "holster-like" low hang that I really did not care for.

I wanted a very classic, traditional Batman Utility Belt where everything was designed to be the same height, neatly lined up, and CENTER-justified (in relation to the 3 inch belt strap width).

With a razor blade, I carefully un-did the stitching on each belt loop strap at the back of the pouches. I then attached my OWN straps, carefully re-positioned to allow the pouches to sit at the proper height on the belt.

Of couse, the final thing that would need to be addressed was the COLOR of these pouches. They were originally produced in a deep, drab, orange brown pleather. I needed them to be Golden Yellow to match the rest of my planned utility belt. To accomplish this, I went to my local art supply store and purchased a [sign in to see URL] OZ. tube of Liquitex Acrylic color (opauque MATTE white, and opaque MATTE Cadmium Yellow Deep Hue). These paints dry with a very nice flexibility WITHOUT flaking or cracking!

With a large hand paint brush, I did a general "wash" of the water-thinned white acrylic over the pouches... just enough to prime them. Then I hand painted three coats of the acrylic yellow over each. I was VERY pleased with the final results!

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I knew it. Those pouches looked familiar. Still great work. Its sucks that for 230 dollars and you cant wear it.
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I knew it. Those pouches looked familiar.



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I knew it. Those pouches looked familiar.



Ditto.





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Amazing Bro, just Amazing! :up

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I really wish I had spotted Robin's silly Joker-like facial expression before I snapped the photo. Crazy kid!



The entire ensemble looks so authentic. And Robin was actually drawn smiling much of the time when he was first introduced. I am thinking how stoked I would be if I could have been in a high school production like this back in my day. I would have had a wider grin. emoticon

We'd like to see stills from the actually play when available. Great work Sir.

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Thanks so much Dale.

You can all be sure that I intend to shoot digital video of our production when we finally take the stage, and I'll share with everyone here. emoticon

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****** A MINOR RANT / PLEASE INDULGE ME*****


You know, as an ultimate Batman geek, I (like many of you) would have been insanely stoked to be a part of a production like this. And it thrills me that these kids are!

But the frustrating thing about working within the Board of Education school system is how limited your creativity becomes when putting something like this together.

At our school, if it is not Shakespeare, or one of the "classic" literary stage productions, the Drama Department (and our school administration) sees no educational "value" in it.

Meanwhile, in the time I've been working on this play, this handful of students have been so very excited to learn all of the aspects of producing this play (acting, directing, stage combat, set design and construction, lighting, practical Special Effects, and (of course) costuming). And it is ALL due to how excited this subject matter makes them.

Working within the Board of Ed, everything seems to be approached with a careful eye toward the avoidance of litigation... so the system becomes more, and more limited every year.

I recently had to fight to re-incorporate the reciting of our National Pledge of Alleigance during our school assemblies. And when we finally did it, the kids CHEERED WILDLY!

They WANT this stuff. They want structure, and discipline, and something to excite them... and something they can be a part of... that they are proud of.

But the system, and its rules makes it more and more of a challenge every year. I would probably get a LOT of flak from administration for trying to produce this play within the Board of Ed school system with the costumes as seen here (Re: Boys and girls wearing "revealing" tights... Robin's legs appearing bare, even though they are NOT).

Meanwhile, these kids are NOT wearing anything more revealing than what the dance department students might wear during one of their performances. I know this because these costumes are at least partially made up of garments that I purchased at a DANCE SUPPLY retailer!

I kid you not. It has become THAT petty.

That is why, I am, instead, working with the PARENTS of these students to produce this play over the summer, INDEPENDENTLY of the school system so that creatively, we don't have to answer to anyone!

We will perform it at a couple of community theaters, or college auditoriums, etc. But we will NOT jump through hoops for the Board of Ed and fight to produce and perform something of this magnitude simply because it is not Shakespeare or one of the "classics".

The sad thing about this is that it is a LOST opportunity for the kids... (to learn to follow their artistic inspiration... to see legitimacy in a contemporary art form)

Instead, this snobbish attitude teaches kids that comic books (even with their contemporary tales of morality, good versus evil, a hero's journey, etc.) are somehow NOT legitimate forms of literature because they are "juvenile, or just that they were not written a long time ago. :doh
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Tomorrow afternoon, I am scheduled to get together with the young actress who will play BATGIRL in our play, and her mother, so that I can do a final costume fitting and take some reference photos of her. I'll post here once they're done.

In the meantime, enjoy this Production Set Design I've rendered for this play...


This is my set design for Bob Kane's Studio Apartment... the drab, un-decorated space of a 1939 artist bachelor...

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This just keeps gettin better. Im stoked about this play.
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Sorry for all the drama. Glad you are pushing ahead.

Go get 'em. Show them how they do it in Gotham.

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Sorry for all the drama. Glad you are pushing ahead.

Go get 'em. Show them how they do it in Gotham.

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Oh, you can BET I will, good buddy!

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They totally look the part. You guys go knock em dead. One quick question, how did you mount the capsules on Batmans belt? I scored some 1/2" acrylic tubes 3" long and some 1/2" half spheres from my local plastic store. Only cost me $[sign in to see URL] for enough to make six.
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Gosh... your fingers look almost exactly like mine! emoticon

Anyhow...

Your acrylic tubes are EXACTLY what I used to fabricate the vials on my Utility Belt.

The only difference is that my tubes and half moon caps are 3/4" in diameter, and each tube was cut to be [sign in to see URL] inches in length (for mounting on a 3 inch wide belt).

You'll need to thoroughly sand paper each vial and then shoot them with a good white primer prior to paint and clear coat.

After I assembled my vials, I used a paper template that I created to mark 3 evenly-spaced vertical spots on the backs of each vial. I used my Dremel rotary tool and a fine drill-bit to drill the 3 marked spots into 3 vertical little holes.

After I positioned the vials on the desired spots on the belt band (held temporarily by double-sided tape), I used the same template to mark the 3 vertical holes on the pleather yellow belt band.

When I drilled the holes in the belt band, they lined up perfectly with the holes in the vials. I then placed fine screws with large flat heads through the back of the belt band at the 3 holes, effectively bolting the vials in place on the band.
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Thanks bro. You rock! If you were referring to the photo wear you are glueing the dots to robins briefs. I guess you are right, our fingers do look similar. I kind of figured that about the capsules. Just wanted to be clear. Where the holes threaded? Funny thing, I went to the plastic store to buy styrene to do my chest logo similar to yours. But the kind they had wasnt something I could cut myself. They were gonna charge me [sign in to see URL] to cut it out for me. So back to the drawing board on that note for now. But I did stumble on the materials to do the caps. Thanks for the help.
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The holes in the capsules are not threaded per-se. However, they become threaded once you put the screws through them.

At the time I designed my belt, if I had known I was going to use the 3 screws method for attaching the vials to the belt band, I might have made the vials out of wooden dowels. The screw attachment would have been far more secure going into solid wood, and wood is far easier to paint.

As for the styrene sheets for making the chest emblem, just mail order some through Plastruct Inc. the hobby supplier.

I believe I used .01 inch thick white styrene for the emblem layers.

It cuts easily enough with a pair of sissors.


Here's a link for ordering. :up

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Thanks for all yo :up ur help bro. You've helped me a ton.
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Presenting BATGIRL !

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Wow!! Just stunning. Well done
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Continues to look awesome!

Sorry to hear about your setbacks. As someone who also works closely with teens, I can tell you with certainty that the people who hold the power have no idea what you do. Instead, they take a hands off approach but don't hesitate to insert uninformed ideas of what they perceive would be best. You work with these teens and YOU know. It's a shame that there isn't more trust in these types of things.

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Exactly. The classic costumes work so well here. This thread is start to now quality stuff.

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