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I tend to trust the critic more because they work in and around the industry over the fans. Fans can make a bad movie great in their eyes so I take their reviews with a grain of salt. In this case I am really hoping the fans are right vs the critics.
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'Hoping for at least a few very cool Batman scenes. 'Might just wait for DVD.


Those Tomato guys are often correct, but a movie can still have some cool scenes for us to enjoy.
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I just got back from seeing it and it's a big big BIG MOVIE!
Excellent is how I'd describe it.
Batman is fantastic, hands down by far my favorite is now Affleck.
Superman, just awesome.
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The main fight scene is very well done, the new Batmobile [sign in to see URL] the final Batman scene is amazing.
A little slow to get going for me but all around a solid movie.

Seeing it again Saturday night while out in LA.

My advice, never trust critics or other fanboys. Go see it yourself and judge it for yourself.

Everyone loved Avengers, yet I hated it.
Everyone says TDK is the best of the Nolan films but I still say Begins is hands [sign in to see URL] the best of the [sign in to see URL] basically, never trust other peoples reviews.

GO See The NEW Batman! It's worth it.

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DAVIDYR1 wrote:

I just got back from seeing it and it's a big big BIG MOVIE!
Excellent is how I'd describe it.
Batman is fantastic, hands down by far my favorite is now Affleck.
Superman, just awesome.
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The main fight scene is very well done, the new Batmobile [sign in to see URL] the final Batman scene is amazing.
A little slow to get going for me but all around a solid movie.

Seeing it again Saturday night while out in LA.

My advice, never trust critics or other fanboys. Go see it yourself and judge it for yourself.

Everyone loved Avengers, yet I hated it.
Everyone says TDK is the best of the Nolan films but I still say Begins is hands [sign in to see URL] the best of the [sign in to see URL] basically, never trust other peoples reviews.

GO See The NEW Batman! It's worth it.

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Couldn't agree more, Begins wins hands down for me. I feel Watchmen is the perfect movie.
MoS didn't hit home for me but that was mostly because it was such a different take but now it's all evolving and Batman is added into the mix, I think it'll all pull together. Can't wait to see it later and decide for myself.

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The critics were wrong. The movie was amazing. You won't be disappointed.
Zachary pulled so much from the comics.

*SPOILER*

Some say it's slow at the beginning. I didn't think so myself. They just had to get the origin stuff out of the way asap.

All in all one of if not not the best dc superhero movies.
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I'm excited about this one but not so excited that I'm gonna run out and see it this weekend. Next weekend or the one after is fine with me. I'm just hoping the critics don't weight it down so badly that it gets pulled early.
As for the marvel stuff, They did a good job IMO witth the X-men stuff early on but killed it with #3. The Toby McGuire Spidey stuff was fun but the Amazing Spidey didn't do it for me and as far as the Nolan stuff goes Begins was the best of the 3 IMO but I still can't sit through it anymore so I gave the DVD's away a few weeks ago. I'd rather watch B&R than that stuff (and that was "pretty bad", LOL).

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David's right though. See it yourself. Really at the end of the day it's YOU that matters

On a side note I read some of the reviews on rotten tomatoes. Jeez were they brutal. It almost seemed like everyone was trying top the next critics quote.
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Yes I agree, I saw it Thursday night and thought it was amazing. Don't let other fans or critics sour your opinion until you can see the film and make your own judgement. But I will say that it seems like some of the critics were trying their hardest to hate on it because so many people are excited about it. Like it was the "cool" thing to hate on the movie.
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What jerks.
On a side note I have to say wow.
How many scenes were lifted right from the pages of the comics. Crazy.
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Hopefully seeing it today.


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I saw it. And I thought it was bad. The editing, pacing and narrative was horrible. I can easily sum it up with "why"? There's no character motivations here. You know what the characters are doing but you never know why.

Why does Lex hate Superman? Why does Lex hate Batman? Why does he hate Bruce Wayne? Why does Batman hate Superman? Why is he hell bent on destroying him even though he doesn't know anything about him?

Why does Batman now go to the ultimate extreme all wily nilly?

The movie has a ton going on and never fully satisfies any of the ideas it presents. It's like Snyder had all these great ideas but was too dense to realize he could only fully expand on a few of them, and instead crammed everything in we got like 4 or 5 movies stuffed into one.

The Justice League bits, and to pretty significant extent, Wonder Woman, were forced in with no rhyme or reason and did nothing to advance the plot.

The end felt cheap and since we know JL films next month we also know it is in fact cheap and meaningless.

Here's another big issue. Clark is such a hopeless mope. This was my issue with Man of Steel. He didn't seem to want to be or thrive on being Superman. It seemed he felt obligated. And because of that, he just pouts for 2 hours. This is not Superman. Batman broods and pouts and sulks, not Supes. There was no contrast between them.

Superman isn't any less violent or careless with human life than Bats, but berates Batman for it. Makes no sense.

Overall, I did enjoy this movie more than MoS. I did enjoy Affleck a great deal, even though his Batman is really unlikable. Irons did very well. The entire cast really did fine with what they were given.

However, terrible editing with no establishing shots, an utterly terrible pacing and lack of coherent narrative, and terrible characterizations of two of the greatest heroes ever sunk the movie.

6/10

I hope this or JL is Snyder's last foray into dc properties. He is an absolute horse manure film make and unless the film is already written and outlined for with A-Z directions of how to put it together he fails, as evident by his original works.

I'd advise to read the gripes critics have with this film as many of not all of those gripes are legitimate criticism.

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I've seen it twice and I enjoyed it much more the second time. There's a lot to take in. My personal score would be a 7/10. I loved Affleck as the Bat. I want a solo film NOW! Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman rocked. When she hit the scene, WOW!

I really suggest just going and see it for yourself. I mean, c'mon, if I made it through a showing of Dark Knight Rises I'm sure you guys can make it through this. LOL

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Look away if you do not want a spoil. The first half sucked.

Once the briefcase blew up in the capitol building and made all that wasted time and those people and story lines go away all was good until the end which was ridiculous and over done trying to be like Avengers. Come on. Be original! It is Batman And Superman!. Ok We get it Superman is hard to stop and he could turn. We do not need a waste of an hour and half to convince us. Geeze. What a waste in the first half. Now everything I watch it I have to live through that.

Ben is Batman. I knew it when it was first announced and I was right even though I was in the minority.

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The first half would've worked if it was the sole purpose of the film. "Do we need a Superman" is such an interesting question and idea to explore. But Snyder didn't really go anywhere with it and it deemed much of the first half useless.

Definitely think Affleck has "best Batman" potential but he needs a better, solo adventure with better characterization. His performance was the best of the film and I'm hoping we see more of him on his own.

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Glad we agree. I didn't want to think I was the only one.


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I have never wished for my money back on a superhero movie i have seen in theaters. this one I did. I completely agree with taliz. i wanted so much to love this movie. and there was so much potentia lbut i feel it was completely wasted. I don't know if this was the fault of ZacK Snyder's directing, David Goyer's writing, the dc/wb deciding they want the money that an avengers movie brings in, or a combination of all three. I hope something changes for justice league or I think i will have to pass on that. that being said i loved Alfred, Lex, the Batmobile, and Wonder Woman. Even though I felt she was forced in this movie, I am looking forward to her solo movie.
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I like the guy who played luther but I wish he was less crazy acting, I don't buy he is smart and that clueless about himself and how he comes off at the same time.

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It watched like a graphic novel reads. Honestly I am surprised there are any in this group that would complain about the pacing and story bits in the first half. If you've read a graphic novel they set the story just like this. Introductions, story beats, expositions all come in the first 2 acts that are then woven together in the 3rd act resolution. I am shocked that was lost on this crowd. I personally loved it, but I am biased as Batman and Superman are my favorite comics heroes and this was an awesome (first time in my life) chance to see my heroes in live action together.

I am glad it was done this way, I'm glad it wasn't a mindless popcorn movie like several of the Marvel films (I love them too, just love them differently) I am glad it made me think and feel and CARE.
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It watched like a graphic novel reads.

Which is part of the problem. A graphic novel isn't a movie.

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Two completely different mediums. You can't write and construct a movie like a graphic novel. The fact that there's inner dialogue in a comic is reason enough to think it'll fail of you try it in a film.



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Leave it to comics fans to never be satisfied, no matter what they get.
"It's not like in the comics"
"You can't make it like a comic"
"It shouldn't be like the comics"

I was intellectually stimulated, entertained, emotionally challenged.
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I'd be satisfied if they made a good movie. They didn't.

There is nothing intellectual about this movie. Nothing has motive, or makes sense, or is fully realized. The ending is about as cheap as it gets.

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I will watch the Batman scenes at home one day.

Once I heard the first hour is slow,
I combined that with not liking the current Superman guy and also combined with not liking the "Watchmen" movie at all. 'Tried more than once to sit through the first 20 or 30 min of that weak movie and I cannot bear it.
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Personally, I enjoyed the movie. Only thing I hated was the portrayal of Luther. Really surprised no one has bitched about Batman killing, which he does plenty of. Not that that was a problem with me.

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No matter how the movie was made there are gonna be people to pick it apart. Face it, just cant please [sign in to see URL] it were made the way you like it, it would be a group of folks that doesn't like it and vice versa. I think some people go in with unreasonable expectations. It's a freaking movie. I didn't LOVE the movie but I enjoyed it for what it was. Not gonna sit here and pick it apart and act like I could have made a better one. As for Bats killing, wasn't that during a dream sequence? And I HATED what they did with Lex. But I'll still go see Justice League when it comes out.

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He blew up a bunch of mooks at the warehouse where Mrs. Kent was being held while in the Batwing. He also killed a few people in that car chase scene. KG Beast also met his demise at the hands of the Batman.

I think it's fine if people enjoyed it. But saying "you can't please everyone" is a cop out. The Nolan films didn't please everyone but they're heralded as great films and they are in fact great movies, ever if they're not everyone's favorite Batman movie.

BvS just wasn't good from a most basic structural standpoint. Editing, pacing, motives, character development, logic. These are all things the movie failed on from an elementary level that lead to critics ripping it to shreds.

I did enjoy it more than Man of Steel but it's still not a very good movie.

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That's all YOUR opinion bro. Just like YOU think the Nolan films were great. I really didn't care for them and won't understand what all the hipe was about. I enjoyed THIS movie more than Nolan's. So saying "You can't please everyone" is not a cop out, it's the TRUTH!!!!
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I did forget to mention how weak it was that the only reason Superman is alive is because his mom shares the same name as Bat's mom. And now all of a sudden, we're besties!LOL!


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That's all YOUR opinion bro. Just like YOU think the Nolan films were great. I really didn't care for them and won't understand what all the hipe was about. I enjoyed THIS movie more than Nolan's. So saying "You can't please everyone" is not a cop out, it's the TRUTH!!!!



The part where you either like or care for The movie is The opinion part. For instance, I love The original ninja turtles movie. It's not a great movie, but I enjoy it and love it.

There's a difference between liking a movie and being of the opinion it that was enjoyable. Hence, you didn't care for the Nolan movies. They're still good movies, you just personally didn't care for them.

Much like I don't personally care for the Marvel movies. I acknowledge there's nothing wrong with them and they're good but I just don't care to watch them.

BvS is not a good movie. I enjoyed my viewing experience despite the many issues critics justifiably pointed out, as you did you. It still isn't very good.

Saying "you can't please everyone" is true from an entertainment or enjoyment standpoint, not a structural standpoint. BvS fails structurally. Whether or not it entertained someone is different from the film actually being good, well written or well out together.

I guess another would be a suit. Rubies mass produces their costumes and cut corners to do so. They may follow the basics of making them, but the products used, the time, manpower etc paled in comparison to that of those here who make their own suits. The rubies suits are bad. The stuff here is cream of the crop. Somebody can still really like, love, enjoy cherish, etc their rubies costume. Doesn't mean it's a good costume.

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