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My view on Facebook/Instagram and what it has done to our "hobby".


I will be the first to admit I don't get why people prefer to hang out on Facebook as opposed to forums.
There are some positives. Mainly it is a great way to advertise. Well until your sales post gets shut down for copyright infringement which I just saw the other day. Those groups aren't as private as people think.
The real negative I have seen come out of it is what was feared here for so long. That it would become almost like a wal-mart for batsuits.
When I get people asking about suits now I NEVER get a question as to how much armor is. It is always how much for a complete suit with everything. Or I quote a price for a cowl or suit and about 50% of the time they want a discount. It seems really odd to me.
I had a guy blowing up my email inbox the other day and after I said I had family in town and would talk with him in a few days he bought an armor kit from someone else. Who he then tried to cancel on and get it from me. What really blew my mind was him and I were talking and he went with the other armor without a conversation with the person. Just that it was cheaper. Never mind the fact it doesnt include all of the pieces, the right cape, or even the gauntlets. It just was cheaper.
I absolutely think that is a biproduct of the facebook/instagram thing. Everything is just put out there on front street now. And the snarkiness is something else. Everyone is an expert because they have watched a youtube video or someone else said something.
Sorry this turned into a little bit of a rant. I miss the good old days of forums.
      
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Rant away Brother and remind everyone on buttbook that we are still here. :)

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Yes. In my humble opinion the old world was better in so many ways. One thing we have to remember is that the young ones have no way of knowing that other than by us saying it.


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Couldn't agree more. :ohwell

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So... at the risk of sounding like the type of person you're describing, I want to counter with this... its very difficult for someone just getting bitten by the batsuit building bug to make a lot of sense of the instructional material currently available. I have been collecting material
-laytex, fabric, parts, etc- readying my personal build (to complement an absolutely fantastic cowl you yourself made!) but now with boards like this completely decimated by the photobucket blocking, so many great tutorials are left open to interpretation due to the lack of visual reference.

Personally, I can see why some people would want to just "walmart" their build and save themselves the wasted time and effort.

Where we definitely agree: The very "here and now," nature of facebook DMs etc lends itself to this behavior when interacting with vendors using the same platform. I don't use facebook much and will always prefer forum format for these kinds of intricate hobbies... been an RPF member before they were the RPF... I especially appreciate the decorum most people display to fellow enthusiasts and its ironic how social media tends to be less community building than forums. Forums make you study up and appreciate things more for sure and maybe thats part of it too. /ramble
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So... at the risk of sounding like the type of person you're describing, I want to counter with this... its very difficult for someone just getting bitten by the batsuit building bug to make a lot of sense of the instructional material currently available. I have been collecting material
-laytex, fabric, parts, etc- readying my personal build (to complement an absolutely fantastic cowl you yourself made!) but now with boards like this completely decimated by the photobucket blocking, so many great tutorials are left open to interpretation due to the lack of visual reference.

Personally, I can see why some people would want to just "walmart" their build and save themselves the wasted time and effort.

Where we definitely agree: The very "here and now," nature of facebook DMs etc lends itself to this behavior when interacting with vendors using the same platform. I don't use facebook much and will always prefer forum format for these kinds of intricate hobbies... been an RPF member before they were the RPF... I especially appreciate the decorum most people display to fellow enthusiasts and its ironic how social media tends to be less community building than forums. Forums make you study up and appreciate things more for sure and maybe thats part of it too. /ramble



I agree with you in regards to how hard it is now to find information. I suppose what I was trying to say is rarely will a person ask what to do. They just want it done for them. Then when you explain they have to put something together themselves 9 times out of 10 they simply don't even want to try.
You can have people pop up every day who can 3d print, mold and make copies but the concept of gluing down armor is somehow elusive? It just doesn't make sense to me.
And onto the subject of entitlement... I had someone complain the other day that they received a urethane cowl with "dust" on it. Dust. From shipping.
That one blew my mind. And is just another reason I am working to move away from doing this on any sort of full time basis.

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Jamie, Any cowl you have that are too dusty to sell you can send to me, I can wipe them off before I use them. :)

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Years ago the joke was that around the beginning of October new folks would come here for the quick buy of a full suit, needed in a week! :banghead You have to remember that you're in control of what you make, do, and how you wish to disseminate the product. Don't let the goons take the fun out of your passion.

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Years ago the joke was that around the beginning of October new folks would come here for the quick buy of a full suit, needed in a week! :banghead You have to remember that you're in control of what you make, do, and how you wish to disseminate the product. Don't let the goons take the fun out of your passion.



I'm not really sure what the point of your comment is. That said, that was under the previous BOTB Management. For some (what I always felt was a ridiculous concern) wanted to limit what people really wanted,,,when they first show up. I and the current staff don't have these concerns. I've been on this board since 2001 and when I first showed up that's basically why I showed up and things were a lot simpler then. I have brought us back to basics. Do what you want, just respect each other. AND this is the biggie, we're all big kids here, when you enter into a deal with someone you do that of your own accord and your own risk. We will NOT intervene in any way. Please check the Trading Post for the rules (and they're minimal).
Still though, don't have any clue what this has to do with this facebook topic. :confused

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