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What are the differences between a keaton and a kilmer cowl?


What differences can you tell between a Keaton cowl and a Kilmer i asked one person one could hardly tell the difference.I think the ears are slightly different and the nose part of the cowl not as big a difference as the bale begins and dark knight though!
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Re: What are the differences between a keaton and a kilmer cowl?


Allow me to ask something first before I answer.And I mean it in all honesty! Are you blind or do you have problems with your eyes? I ask because I want to know why you use this board to ask that question and not on facebook. Honestly its important to know because there are 2 answers to that question, one is a visual(photos) and the other is this:Buy a cowl of each and compare yourself with your hands how they differ, its impossible to describe it correctly with words. The cowls are similar but in no way the same.Please post your situation and your knowledge level here so we can help you with your question.

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Re: What are the differences between a keaton and a kilmer cowl?


Apologies i am on the autism spectrum I have a friend bill who cannot tell the difference between a returns cowl and a Kilmer i said there are subtle differences between them but i could understand to another person it could be hard to tell the difference.
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Re: What are the differences between a keaton and a kilmer cowl?


OK, I see, so to put it simply, the Main difference is that the Returns cowl is bigger on the base (the part that touches the chest) and the neck is wider. On the returns cowl there are scallops that fit the design of the cape, and also come down much lower than the Kilmer Panther Cowl. The design on top around the exes and the ears and the nose is similar but not the same in detail. There are about 10 makers or more of the cowls (Replica and Recasts) and it is not easy to spot differences.Here 2 photos so you can compare:

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Re: What are the differences between a keaton and a kilmer cowl?


Awesome yep can notice the small differences in both cowls there thanks so much for the comparison photislove both myself the keaton and Kilmer ones are my favorite cowls
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Re: What are the differences between a keaton and a kilmer cowl?


Thanks for stopping in here, I wish more people would. This forum used to be the first place people went for Batman costuming ideas and discussions. Sadly that has move to the Facebook groups as most want the instant gratification that it offers.

It's also important to note that though similar Keaton's 89 cowl and Returns cowls are also completely different sculpts. Though both have the scallops that Red has described the 89 has a different shape.

All are nice though.

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Re: What are the differences between a keaton and a kilmer cowl?


yep that is true too there are differences between the keaton and 89 the ears and nose are a little different on both 92 has slightly sharper nose and ears.
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Thanks so much yes there are differences between 89 and 92 nose and ears are abit sharper in 92
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