Runboard.com
Слава Україні!

runboard.com       Register for a free global account (learn about it) | Log in: (), globally (lost password?)

Page:  1  2  3 

 
SuperTeG Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Apprentice

Registered: 08-2004
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 100
Reply | Quote
Joker Origin


Ok, this might have been discussed before, but here it goes anyway. The Joker fell into a vat of toxic chemicals (turning his skin white, hair green, etc.) This vat of TOXIC chemicals empties into the river... I'm trying to make a realistic script to show Joker's origin and for a chemical plant to be dumping this toxin that turns your skin white and your hair green into the river for god knows how long seems very UNREAL to me... how would the Joker really become the Joker?

---
Riddle me this, With pointed fangs I sit in wait,
With piercing force I dole out fate,
Over bloodless victims proclaiming my might,
Eternally joining in a single bite.
What am I?


A Stapler!
7/23/2005, 11:06 am Link to this post Send Email to SuperTeG   Send PM to SuperTeG
 
mtsbspidey Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Dark Knight

Registered: 03-2005
Location: philly, pa
Posts: 533
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


i don't know about the white skin and green hair...but i remember seeing something about dr phil's sister...she had been in some kind of accident involving acid splashing in her face and she did have the weird joker smile...i saw it and freaked out because at least part of the joker's origin has a basis in reality...skott

---
check out my fan film - ambush bug: the movie at http://ambushbugmovie.0nyx.com (updated 6/8/07)
7/23/2005, 11:55 am Link to this post Send Email to mtsbspidey   Send PM to mtsbspidey
 
AlienFilms Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Caped Crusader

Registered: 06-2004
Posts: 1979
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


Got a picture of dr phil's sister...

---
https://www.facebook.com/AZWayneBatman

7/23/2005, 12:28 pm Link to this post Send Email to AlienFilms   Send PM to AlienFilms
 
Deadly Lemur Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info



Registered: 01-2004
Posts: 3661
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


Here is her book, if you click the pic at the top you can see a picture of her.

---
~Heather~

Some people call me the space cowboy. Some call me the gangster of love. Some people call me Maaauuurriiice. 'Cause I speak of the pompitous of love.
7/23/2005, 1:07 pm Link to this post Send Email to Deadly Lemur   Send PM to Deadly Lemur
 
Apocalypton Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Caped Crusader

Registered: 02-2004
Posts: 1676
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


SuperTeG, this is a great question!!!

And answering it is anything but straightforward. But we might start with the comic book origin of the Joker, as told in Detective Comics #168 of February 1951: "The Man Behind the Red Hood." In that issue, and in Batman's and the Joker's words following the Joker's employment as a lab worker:

BATMAN: "Great Scott! He's diving into the catch basin for all the waste chemicals from your plant!"

JOKER: "Finally, I reached my goal -- by stealing from the Monarch Playing Card Company! My hood's oxygen tube enabled me to escape by swimming under the surface of the pool of chemical wastes...But at home I looked at myself with growing horror...That chemical vapor -- it turned my hair green, my lips rouge-red, my skin chalk-white! I look like an evil clown! What a joke on me!"

Now, how could any of this be AT ALL credible? Well, here are a few ideas -- and everybody should pitch in with more, because both the comic and Batman 1989 versions could use stiff doses of more realism -- at least to enable us to suspend complete disbelief:

1. Monarch likely used certain caustic chemicals for coloring and bleaching. But these chemicals would never be mixed, and would be separately disposed of by transporting to special toxic waste dumps or tanks -- never simply caught in a basin and dumped into the river. And even the toxic waste facilities might employ various chemicals and processes to precipitate and neutralize the toxic compounds into relatively harmless solids and liquids that could then be buried, released into the ground or ocean, or even recycled.

2. But the Joker's crime at Monarch would most likely have included his disruption and even blowing up parts of the plant, causing rupturing of vats, mixing of diverse chemicals in the catch basin pool, and even rupturing of the pool itself. And then huge, accidental effluent runoffs flowed into the adjacent river where he made his escape.

3. Could these happenstance chemical compounds have caused the Joker's hair follicles to react differently and permanently with body hormones, making his body sprout only green-colored hair from then on -- including ALL hair on his body? Perhaps.

4. But how about permanent skin bleaching and reddened lips? Those things seem a lot more unlikely, because changing skin pigmentation to a chalky hue might require trauma as severe as third-degree burning. But again -- if we REALLY stretch -- perhaps the accidental chemical compounds might have bleached all melanin (which causes skin color) in his skin, and somehow permanently altered the melanin-producing mechanism in his body to eliminate pigment. That would make his skin not chalk-white, but Albino. And other chemicals in the mixture might have attacked exposed mucous membranes -- in this case his lips and deep nostrils, causing permanently premature sloughing of outer skin layers. This latter, horrid mutilation would certainly redden his lips and make them extremely susceptible to injury and bleeding. More gruesome aspects for Joker episodes!

Zane


---
As a symbol, I can be incorruptible. I can be everlasting.
7/23/2005, 1:15 pm Link to this post Send Email to Apocalypton   Send PM to Apocalypton
 
SuperTeG Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Apprentice

Registered: 08-2004
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 100
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


Wow...very well thought out! I like the fact that in all the chaos happening in the factory, that a vat could rupture, spilling him into a drain to the river... I was maybe thinking that I could use the Red Hood as a reason his face has the grin. Maybe the chemicals became pressurized in the mask, tightening his facial muscles, maybe even shrinking them. (the chemical could shrink muscles in his whole body making him very thin) guys, keep 'em coming...I feel we could stumble on to something great!

---
Riddle me this, With pointed fangs I sit in wait,
With piercing force I dole out fate,
Over bloodless victims proclaiming my might,
Eternally joining in a single bite.
What am I?


A Stapler!
7/23/2005, 1:36 pm Link to this post Send Email to SuperTeG   Send PM to SuperTeG
 
TimDrakeRobin Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Caped Crusader

Registered: 07-2004
Posts: 1191
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


I would like to see that the chemicals he dove into were more of just a bleaching chemical that turned his skin a sickly white, not quite chalk, but a very ill looking white. and them when he see's this he goes mad with anger thinking "Batman has made me into a clown, a big joke for all the world to see. I'll show Batman...The Joke will be on Him now" and this brings him to dye his hair and do the whole clown prince thing. The hair dying, to me, is a little more realistic then vapor turning his hair green for there would be no reason for it to continue to grow out green if the effected hair was only what he currently had.

just my two cents.
7/23/2005, 1:47 pm Link to this post Send Email to TimDrakeRobin   Send PM to TimDrakeRobin
 
SuperTeG Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Apprentice

Registered: 08-2004
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 100
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


I totally agree with "a sickly white, not quite chalk, but a very ill looking white" in the fact that you can see veins and such on his skin. Also creating dark circles under the eyes. Maybe the chemical could alter his hair folicles themselves, permenatly turning them a green tint. I just have this creepy shot of the Joker laying in a bath tub and we see that it is not make up, that this is what he has become. A close up on his arm with green hairs and his whole upper torso that is exposed from the water is the white skin.

---
Riddle me this, With pointed fangs I sit in wait,
With piercing force I dole out fate,
Over bloodless victims proclaiming my might,
Eternally joining in a single bite.
What am I?


A Stapler!
7/23/2005, 2:10 pm Link to this post Send Email to SuperTeG   Send PM to SuperTeG
 
Apocalypton Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Caped Crusader

Registered: 02-2004
Posts: 1676
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


I think Robert's post adds up to more like many dollars, especially if used in the next WB feature film. It gives the Joker more opportunity to use his demented mind in choosing more of his persona, rather than having everything just happen to him all at once, which is really a stretch.

The chemicals could cause him to become Albino, and then he could simply dye his hair and use lipstick, being the wacko that he is. Even the disfigured smile is not an absolute must -- the guy loves perverse joking, right? But if you want to hang onto facial disfigurement, one of his Monarch blasts could backfire on him, rending his red hood somewhat (which is metal), so as to tear into his flesh and permanently mutilate his mouth, even while sucking in air through the tube. Yuk!

Zane

---
As a symbol, I can be incorruptible. I can be everlasting.
7/23/2005, 2:25 pm Link to this post Send Email to Apocalypton   Send PM to Apocalypton
 
TimDrakeRobin Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Caped Crusader

Registered: 07-2004
Posts: 1191
Reply | Quote
Re: Joker Origin


I LIKE TIS THREAD!!
a plethera of ideas.
keep em coming
7/23/2005, 2:37 pm Link to this post Send Email to TimDrakeRobin   Send PM to TimDrakeRobin
 


Add a reply

Page:  1  2  3 





You are not logged in (login)