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EchoSix
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Re: First critics reviews on Superman Returns
Steve... You write well. I think I've said that a few times already. As long as you use spell-check, that is.
I may have the same problem at times, that Steve is being labeled with. All momentary lapses of insanity aside though! :lol
Not always do people see and hear the positive things that are said by someone. Those things are overlooked and forgotten. The human mind doesn't specifically recognize something that "goes with the flow"... We take it for granted and file that memory away into the same spot as where we keep the memory of what word was the very first word out of our mouths this morning.
News broadcasts focus on the negative things not just because misery sells, but also because that's what peeks our interest and makes a lasting impression. Sure, we hear some great positive stories every now and then, but we remember the bad things we see and hear of, more often than not.
As often as I mention how cool or funny something is or when I post something which I find interesting enough to share in the Off-Topic Section, I'm sure it's the negative comments that I say about things, that are what make people put ME into a certain category that I may or may not belong in. I hate German food to death, I get violently angry when exposed to Rap music, I feel ignorance is something that people should be fined after commiting the act and that anyone who basically disagrees with any of my beliefs should be forced to endure the "HOM-DAI" (from the film The Mummy) as punishment. :lol
We, as seriously fu*king major fans of Batman, should easily recognize how passionate someone can get with everything they've read, seen, heard and known, about the true history of Bruce Wayne and the entire world around him. Then, when a group of businessmen decide to try and capitalize on a franchise, in order to hopefully make an obscene amount of money and they then use ANY tactic necessary in order to achieve that goal, regardless of any previously well established fact that a devoted fan knows as firmly as they know their own face... Then you have an agry rabid dog on your hands.
I shake my head over it, with all of the Batman films... I get completely frustrated with what they've done to Superman... But it's what Lucas has done to Star Wars the REALLY pisses me off!
But, that's another story. 
Look at it this way...
How many inconsistant fan-made Batman films are there in the world? Sure, there's a few rotten wastes of film, but those were done from an "artistic" point of view apparently. I didn't like them, but at least they were done for originality, rather than just trying to make some extra money. Fan-made films are from the heart and usually from the heart of a rabid, die-hard fan. Therefore, they're gonna' be pretty fu*king accurate to the history of what we ALL know.
What Hollywood has done to most of the characters in the Superhero world, is truly dispicable. They don't give the films a serious approach to what we find serious. I'm not gonna' label each one specifically with each of their flaws, because that'd take a really long time. Each of them have their good points, as well, but for the most part and overall...
If you're not gonna' do it RIGHT, then don't do it at all!
Steve also just needs to get laid... Really soon. Or else we're all gonna' pay the price for it. :lol
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6/22/2006, 10:48 am
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SC DarkKnight
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The owner of "Heroes Aren't Hard to Find" comic book store here in Charlotte saw it last week and says "It's the best Superhero Movie of ALL TIME."
That's before a great Batman Begins, 2 great Spiderman movies and 2 great X-MEN movies.
That's high praise.
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6/24/2006, 8:47 am
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BatMack
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It could easily be the best Superman movie because the ones with Reeves...SUCKED! I didn't watch any after the second one but they seemed to get worse if that was possible. That psycho dog Kidder and the Ned Beatty character. I'm looking forward to it even if the late night London park trawler Spacey WWGD..What would George Michaels do?
is playing Lex. On the subject of Terry M's post....I agree. :up I did watch Smallville in spite of the inane liberties they took with the characters.
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SC DarkKnight
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I have to disagree.. Christopher Reeve WAS Superman. There may have been comidic moments in the movie that were funny for its time, but not for today's audience.
I don't count the other Superman movies... they did suck.
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6/24/2006, 4:32 pm
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EchoSix
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Yeah, not to sh*t on your opinion Lance, but I feel that Chris Reeve was without a doubt a great Superman. That's not to say that I'm correct either. If he was given about six more months to bulk up even more, then he'd be the epitome of what Superman is supposed to be, in my eyes.
But, like many others out there, I also think they could have done a much better job with the rest of the first film and should have completely done away with the others. Why Gene Hackman as a silly Lex and ugly assed, aging Kidder as Lois?
The first film was made for the same reasons that most films are made... Money. They make a film in order to make money, NOT to please the die-hard fans who eat off of every scene and word they see.
Superman: The Movie, was good, but not great.
I don't have great expectations for this new film, myself.
We'll still pay the dough and stand in line for it with our fingers crossed though.
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6/24/2006, 4:43 pm
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BatMack
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I was a huge Superman fan and remember going to the first one twice at the theater when I was 15, once on its' first run and the second time at the discount theater. I had great expectations. I didn't like Reeve in the role. I thought he was underdeveloped physically for the role and his acting was flat. I also thought the script and acting was far too corny. I haven't watched the movie since then but remember it vividly. I saw the second movie and remember nothing about it was so horrible. I preferred George Reeves characterization of Superman on the small screen in the afternoons growing up.
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BatMack
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Liam,my opinion is just that,MINE:nahnah . A lot of people won't agree. I think maybe the ones who were taken as younger kids probably thought more of it than the ones who saw it when older.:p
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Here is another review.Blah, blah, blah
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Lance, you are far from alone. I myself find George Reeves to be a far superior Superman than Chris Reeve by leaps and bounds (no pun intended). I know quite a few people who feel the same way, off the top of my head, Tim.
One of the things that worries me about this movie is that Routh appears to have been cast solely due to the fact that he looks like Chris Reeve and now the reviews are saying things like "Routh mimics Reeve perfectly on screen" and the reports that quotes from the other film are forced into every ounce of the script. Oh great, just what I wanted, the Donner film redux. This honestly sounds worse as the moments pass. :sick
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I think its just the right blend of homage/sequel to Reeves' Superman while at the same time exploring a new story and concept.
As much as I look forward to seeing it, so much of it confuses me. Is it a sequel to Superman I and II? Not quite. Is it a reboot? Obviously not. Is it an original story? Sorta.
Whatever Superman Returns turns out to be, this much is certain: The way they've approached this comic book movie is very different from any other done so far.
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EchoSix
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"Looking forward to bumbling Clark, funny Lex, ugly Lois and annoying kid"
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