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Re: Batman white eyes


These are classed as yellow and I have not seen any to be sure but they look white to me.

http://www.vision3k.com/product.asp?dept%5Fid=110003

I would get a pro to cut them though.

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i dunno, seems like a lot to spend on something that could be the wrong color.
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Quote:

Lujho1 wrote:
But, innovation seems to be a dirty word where feature-film batsuit designers are concerned.



Amen to that brother.
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I'm not really a fan of the attempt to emulate the white eyes in live-action productions or realistic artistic portrayals. I do think that contacts would be a better solution than lenses in the cowl itself, at least cosmetically, but as the decision to remove the pupils in the earliest drawings of Batman was made for aesthetics only and not to represent the reality of the costume, I'm happy to not bother with it.

For feature films though, I wonder how hard it'd be in this day and age to remove the pupils digitally thoughout the film if they really wanted to get that look. There are contact lenses that give the wearer night vision, powered for several seconds at a time just by blinking, which could be an interesting basis for a plausible explanation.
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See, I think if your try to replicate the look by only whiting out the eyes (by contacts or digitally), you introduce an element of artificiality or illogic - I mean, is Batman actually wearing such lenses for no real reason (which in reality would probably be dangerous, uncomfortable and not actually allow him to see), or is it just a stylistic thing that's not actually meant to physically be there (like it originally was in the comics)? They'd be like the "magic" black eyepaint in the films that isn't really there - and I hate that kind of contrivance.

Also - in the comics, while it did just start out as a stylistic choice, many writers/artists since HAVE rationlised it as lenses in the cowl. They explicitaly draw and write it that way.

When you do have them as part of the cowl, they make a whole lot more sense, AND can look better and more interesting - they can be slightly bigger (and thus more apparent) and have an interesting, dynamic shape.

And of course, the only reason you need to have them in the cowl is protection. All this "nightvision" stuff is too much, IMO.

For the record, this is the best portrayal of lenses I've ever seen on Batman. This could totally work in live-action. He should have given Robin the same treatment. It's hard to see, but the lens is semi-transparent so you can see his eyes underneath.

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well I have a few comics where Robin talks about the lenes in his mask a few times. they seem to be to be both for protection (from like mace and getting other stuff in his eyes) and also night vision. if a yellow lens is in front of the eye it causes the pupils to dialaite(sp?) allowing you to gather more avalible light thus allowing you to see more clearly at night(not exactly night vision just better eyesight). I've thought that a domino mask is a bit silly for protecting your identy so i just kinnda wrote them off as being kinnda like protective goggles than anything else. For a functional Robin I beilve that he would have intercangeable lenses in his goggles like yellow, clear and maybe mirrored or something. so I don't see why any of this couldn't be applied to batman

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I’ve always been a vocal supporter of the “lenses in cowls” brigade – my cowl was always going to have lenses and I’ve tried & tested many different types over the last few years.

Once I got my cowl to the wearable stage I put a few of them inside and took some pictures (not just because I’m vain and like to show off – looking at pics does help the process) and to my dismay I can’t shale the feeling that tho it is more “accurate” to have lenses in the cowl it does lose something.

My wife (who I defer to on all things batman as she’s the expert round here) said that she thought that without lenses it looked more animalistic, the mask comes alive and becomes a face – whereas with lenses it looks more like a helmet.

It upsets me to say this, but the final version of the cowl may not have lenses in it – or if they are they will be removable at least till I make up my mind one way or another.

Also - from a purely practical point of view, they do steam up and make the piece a lot warmer to wear.

Heres some comparison pics : sorry the lensed pics didn’t turn out so well, but you get the idea at least.

  
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Registered: 08-2004
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Wow




Look at that.




How great is that... emoticon






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Hey GA, i didnt think i could like that cowl more than i already did but man, with the lenses, i love it even more. i think they complete the cowl. :dancespot

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Re: Batman white eyes


Eeeeeehhh... I like it without. He's right. The lenses make it look impersonal and less of a mask, as Bruce would wear.

The lenses on a "real" cowl, would only be for Bruce to see in the dark or use some kind of heat or ultra-violet vision. Like in the Predato series... He had to make something that allowed him to see the Predator, while it was invisible.

I like it without the lenses. I was just commenting on how fu*king cool GA's cowl is.

Do remember... IT'S LEATHER!!!:wink





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