GOBBY
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Bolting a Resin Emblem to a Flesh Cowl
What is a good adhedsive for gluing a Flesh cowl down to a latex cape? I want it to stay put.
And what is a good way of attaching the resin emblem to a flesh cowl? I tried putting the industrial velcro with the sticky side,but the flesh cowl just will not hold the velcro for very long. Am i gonna have to do some sort of bolting system to hold the emblem in place?
thanks guys,
Michael
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1/30/2005, 10:44 pm
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DAVIDYR1
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Re: Flesh cowl to latex?
For the emblem the best way is the bolting system.
All around the emblem area of the cowl it has those rivet like areas. Hole punch through them and have the screws permanently bonded onto the backside of the emblem...long enough to go through the cowl and if needed the chest piece too. Not too long or they'll hurt you on the inside of the suit.
Or..just use superglue to attach industrial strength velcro to the cowl and emblem.
Superglue will also hold the cowl to latex.
Hope this helps a bit.
David
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1/30/2005, 11:05 pm
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Re: Flesh cowl to latex?
Thanks Dr.David :up
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Re: Flesh cowl to latex?
David,
What's the best thing to use for permanently bonding the screws to the back of the symbol? What would you recommend?
Rob
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1/31/2005, 11:48 am
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DAVIDYR1
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Re: Flesh cowl to latex?
Good question...
First make sure they're flat head screws. I would guess that superglue would work for that also.
Once you've poked the holes through the emblem mount, line up the emblem onto the front of the cowl and with a marker mark off exactly where the holes line up on the back of the emblem. From the back of the mount, use a thin marker and push it through the holes so you know exactly where to glue the screws down.
Also make sure the screws are not pointed on the tips also..flat head and tip screws then bolt them onto the back of the emblem mount..or directly though the chest piece itself.
Post pics if you're planning on doing so.
David
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1/31/2005, 11:56 am
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Re: Flesh cowl to latex?
On the attaching screws to the emblem I have a thought here as well. Get a piece of aluminim or sheet metal (probably .060 to .100" thick) and put your screws through that. Then bond or velcro the emblem to that rather than glueing them right to the emblem. I'm pretty sure that any glue you might use to bond screws right to the back of the emblem wouldn't have enough sheer strength to permanently hold. Again like David said, you'll need flat headed screws.
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Re: Flesh cowl to latex?
Ed, I think you're onto something there... I've thought about this too, and short of actually casting the screws into the resin, I couldn't think of anything that would be able to resist the lateral shear either. Being someone who actually does structural design myself, what you've suggested seems to make a lot of sense. With bonding the plate to the back of the emblem, you'll get enough surface area contact to make the adhesive effectively do its job.
Another question... when bolting through the chest piece, would it make sense to use similar concept & put a backing plate on the inside to protect the latex/urethane? To clarify, I guess you would bond the backing plate to the inside of the chest piece & drill the holes according to where you need them. This way, the nuts & washers would have something to hold onto without biting into the material. I guess the only concern here would be the added weight of the plate, but if you used a light gauge sheet metal, it wouldn't be significant.
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Re: Flesh cowl to latex?
Leather could also be used. If anyone has a "Tandy" leather around them anywhere, someone could get a small shoulder for like $10.00 or so (prices may vary) you can get the leather , plasti-dip it, or dye it, and put your screws through the leather, and bond the leather to the emblem. Might be a little easier to bond to the resin than the aluminium, just a thought.
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Re: Flesh cowl to latex?
Knightsix,
Yes, you are correct, I would also put a plate in the inside of the suit. In any event it's still going to be tricky as all get out to get the nuts in place. If memory serves, Artsee1 was doing this with his personal suit for a while. I don't know if he still does. And Lewis Tully, yeah, leather could work too if it were thick enough but I think the aluminum plate would be more rigid and the likelyhood of the screws pulling through would be less than if you were to use the leather. Remember guys that using these "Bolt on" methods (which they did do in the 89 and Returns films) will leave you with screws and nuts against your chest, I would think, ouch... I guess you would want to wear a foam pad or something between your suit and your chest.
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