How To Make Gauntlets https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/t189511 Runboard| How To Make Gauntlets en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:00:56 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:00:56 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798149,from=rss#post1798149https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798149,from=rss#post1798149Ah thanks you. Forgive my inexperience with the board Kennondisclosed_email@example.com (Agent 10)Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:50:53 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798148,from=rss#post1798148https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798148,from=rss#post1798148It works. You gotta turn off the language filter thing in you settings. John :flapbat nondisclosed_email@example.com (Blackwood Bat)Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:40:31 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798147,from=rss#post1798147https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798147,from=rss#post1798147the link's not working b/c of a naughty word in the title (Here's a hint, put the 4 letter nickname for "Richard" in place of the ****) nondisclosed_email@example.com (VoodooBat)Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:28:22 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798146,from=rss#post1798146https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798146,from=rss#post1798146Link inst working Kennondisclosed_email@example.com (Agent 10)Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:08:46 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798145,from=rss#post1798145https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798145,from=rss#post1798145This is that stuff I was talking about and it is called 'Body Parts'. :wink This will make an armature of you arms and sculpt it in clay the way you see in EvilGenius' pics. Then the molding and casting process,etc.,etc. http://www.dickblick.com/zz335/10/ John :flapbat nondisclosed_email@example.com (Blackwood Bat)Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:26:55 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798144,from=rss#post1798144https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798144,from=rss#post1798144I'm not sure if there's an actual pattern going around, because I think most of the high-end replicas are being sculpted and cast in latex. And for that same reason, I'm thinking the method of closure is a bit different. However I think my pattern is very suitable, except the Begins style gauntlets flare out towards the elbow end more pronouncedly(if that's a word) than mine do, and then the back end, like I suggested, would be basically be a "sine wave" if the pattern is viewed in an "unrolled" manner. If one were to want to make Sintra Begins gauntlets that flare out as much as the ones in the movie do, I'm thinking it could be done, and add some padding to the inside(maybe with foamies or something) to keep the gauntlet from rattling around while you're wearing it. That thread link I provided a few posts ago should have the pattern I used for mine - relatively easily modified for Begins gauntlets, I should think.nondisclosed_email@example.com (PatrickJ)Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:01:27 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798143,from=rss#post1798143https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798143,from=rss#post1798143Out of interest does anyone have a pattern for the gauntlets? What is the method of closure on the actual version? What are the dimensions of the fins? Kennondisclosed_email@example.com (Agent 10)Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:43:32 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798142,from=rss#post1798142https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798142,from=rss#post1798142Thanks... nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gthmnyt2580)Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:14:08 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798141,from=rss#post1798141https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798141,from=rss#post1798141Quote:gthmnyt2580 wrote: PatrickJ...i meant to ask you...how did you close up the gauntlet? EDIT: Scratch that...i just found your other post again... :doh Too late, just did it :p It's all good. nondisclosed_email@example.com (PatrickJ)Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:06:59 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798140,from=rss#post1798140https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798140,from=rss#post1798140See, there was a trick to doing that and making it look good and uniform. Okay, here goes: :p Look at this pic: Along the seam there, which is opposite the fins, you can see evenly spaced holes on both sides and at each end. I drilled those holes before forming to accomodate some plastic cable ties. I then boiled it and hand formed it, to get the holes close to each other so as to get the cable ties through them. Make them as tight as you can. Then put the gauntlet back in the boiling water. Take it out again and tighten the cable ties. Repeat this process until it's evenly spaced along the entire seam. If you look along its length it might look like a teardrop in cross-section. For this reason put it back in the water one more time. Take it out and then press the seam against a flat surface The elbow end should make an oval to accomodate your forearm without spreading the seam when you bend your arm. I've noticed that the oval that the elbow end makes in cross section, should look rotated 90 degrees from the one the wrist end makes(and that one should be oriented so that the long axis of the oval goes from seam to fin). I hope I haven't confused you. :p But anyway, get a lot of cable ties, you're gonna need them. :p That was the way I did it. It required a lot of trial and error. Which is what makes sintra so nice, because of the ability to constantly reform it.nondisclosed_email@example.com (PatrickJ)Wed, 27 Jul 2005 01:05:32 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798139,from=rss#post1798139https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798139,from=rss#post1798139PatrickJ...i meant to ask you...how did you close up the gauntlet? EDIT: Scratch that...i just found your other post again... :doh nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gthmnyt2580)Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:34:32 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798138,from=rss#post1798138https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798138,from=rss#post1798138Cool! Glad I could be of some help. :wink nondisclosed_email@example.com (PatrickJ)Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:21:33 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798137,from=rss#post1798137https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798137,from=rss#post1798137Quote:PatrickJ wrote: Here's mine. :toocool They're made from Sintra. They way I would do it would be to use sintra and add the raised details with foamies. Here's a pattern I made for my gauntlets. http://com1.runboard.com/bbrotherhoodofthebat.fgloves.t33 In order to make the elbow end of them more accurate to the movie, you'll have to make the elbow end resemble more of a sine wave(if you're not sure how to do that, I'll see if I can modify the pattern for ya). That "sine wave" will give it a nice, flat angled end once it's rolled up. Once you have the sintra cut to that shape, form it and then sand it how you like it. Add the foamies and the fins, however you made the fins(i'm going to make mine from wood... haha). And you're all set. Your's was the other one person i was gonna refer to, but i couldnt remember where i saw that thread....thanks...i need that too... :up nondisclosed_email@example.com (Gthmnyt2580)Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:17:55 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798136,from=rss#post1798136https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798136,from=rss#post1798136Here's mine. :toocool They're made from Sintra. The way I would do it would be to use sintra and add the raised details with foamies. Here's a pattern I made for my gauntlets. http://com1.runboard.com/bbrotherhoodofthebat.fgloves.t33 In order to make the elbow end of them more accurate to the movie, you'll have to make the elbow end resemble more of a sine wave(if you're not sure how to do that, I'll see if I can modify the pattern for ya). That "sine wave" will give it a nice, flat angled end once it's rolled up. Once you have the sintra cut to that shape, form it and then sand it how you like it. Add the foamies and the fins, however you made the fins(i'm going to make mine from wood... haha). And you're all set.nondisclosed_email@example.com (PatrickJ)Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:07:41 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798135,from=rss#post1798135https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798135,from=rss#post1798135I too have no sculpting experience or casting whatsoever....so i looked through the boards here and i'm gonna take this approach: http://com1.runboard.com/bbrotherhoodofthebat.fthecostumevault.t306 His gaunlets are made of what is called "SINTRA"....People who make star wars costumes and props swear by it in alot of cases from what i've read....basically, its a PVC foam sheet that you can boil and then bend it to any shape you like and then put it in cool water to hold it's shape...the best thing about it, is that if you mess up the shape, you can just boil it again....I bought my sheet of Sintra a local sign supply shop and i'm gonna try and start making them this weekend....You can also order it online from this place:http://www.usplastic.com...the best thickness is .120" or 1/8"....Just read through the thread from the link i posted above and see if you wanna try that approach...hope i could help... :up and i'll post pix when i get around to that projectnondisclosed_email@example.com (Gthmnyt2580)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:10:13 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798134,from=rss#post1798134https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798134,from=rss#post1798134my advice to you would be to stop seeing everyday objects as what they were intended to be used for. All around you are pieces of wood, plastic, cardboard, metal etc etc which if you look at from a different angle could easily be something else much more useful to batman. Break what you want to make down into simple geometry (spheres, cones, boxes and the like) and then start finding things to glue together that look right want to sculpt and cast? Do yourself a favor and google it. Go to michaels and buy water based clay which is cheaper than plasteline and start practicing making simple shapes and then mold them. You dont have to spend a lot of money to screw up. start at the beginning, dont try and sculpt and mold until you have at least looked how to do it under a few web pages if thats your path. Best of luck nondisclosed_email@example.com (phaint)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:55:11 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798133,from=rss#post1798133https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798133,from=rss#post1798133ONE WORD! Alginate... Something with a longer set time than the dental stuff... it's pretty common to find it at most highend art stores, or order it directly from smooth-on.com... their brand is called Alga-safe... and after having HUGE problems with another brand Mold-gel... Alga-safe was the shizzle LOL... hope that helps... You could also use a mannequin arm like I did for my gauntlet sculpt.... J.nondisclosed_email@example.com (evilgenius)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:20:42 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798132,from=rss#post1798132https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798132,from=rss#post1798132Quote:This method of creating a cast sounds a really interesting idea - where would you get such a kit or can I go to my local hardware store and get the materials? Well see,that's the problem. The places I've seen it haven't had it for a while. But that doesn't necessarily mean they don't carry it anymore so I'll have to look into it. I seriously doubt you'd find anything like this in a hardware store,though. As suggested,check a good hobby/craft shop. The kit might actually be called 'Body Parts'...for some reason that sticks in my head. John :flapbat nondisclosed_email@example.com (Blackwood Bat)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:30:09 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798131,from=rss#post1798131https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798131,from=rss#post1798131I found this site: http://www.schmitthenner.com/bracers.htm This one is hardened leather Could these spikes somehow be modified to hold fins? This one is cheap - only $30 for a pair I am thinking maybe get one of these leather bracers and modify it. Could I attach fins and then plastic dip the whole thing? Would that make it look metallic - if something is plasti-dipped is it still flexible? Whats a good way to make sturdy fins myself? Maybe I could even use real metal armoor if there is any design which looks close. Ken nondisclosed_email@example.com (Agent 10)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:20:37 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798130,from=rss#post1798130https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798130,from=rss#post1798130Just my 2 cents: http://entropyhouse.com/penwiper/costumes/arrowtutorial.html A tutorial put together by a friend of mine. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Batextra1)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:11:24 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798129,from=rss#post1798129https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798129,from=rss#post1798129What is it I am actually looking for? Plaster? Alternativly are there otherways of building it and then I just plastic-dip the whole thing? Kennondisclosed_email@example.com (Agent 10)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:51:17 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798128,from=rss#post1798128https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798128,from=rss#post1798128i think i know what Blackwoods talking about. i've seen something like it at my local hobby store. try a good hobby/craft store.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Shadowbat69)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:30:44 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798127,from=rss#post1798127https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798127,from=rss#post1798127This method of creating a cast sounds a really interesting idea - where would you get such a kit or can I go to my local hardware store and get the materials? Kennondisclosed_email@example.com (Agent 10)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:06:35 +0000 Re: Novice wants to make Begins Gauntlets - How?https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798126,from=rss#post1798126https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798126,from=rss#post1798126I am by no means an expert,but I've tossed this around in my head. I'm thinking of getting some mold making type stuff that allows you to recreat body parts. I've seen it in the past and it's fairly cheap and is a kit for making one-off molds and casting in plaster. For example,you get a container that's long and thin. Mix up the mold compound and pour it in the container,then put in your whole forearm up to your elbow. In something like ten minutes or so you gently remove your arm and have a mold. Then you pour in plaster(or whatever) and when that cures you peel away the mold leaving an exact duplicate of you arm. Then you get some clay and sculpt away. After that mold it and cast it in latex(or whatever). This mold stuff used to be readily available at Michaels and A.C. Moore,but I haven't been able to find it since I took an interest in it...go figure. Oh,BTW,Plasti-Dip is basically just rubber spray paint. Comes in a spray can and you get it at Lowe's,NAPA parts stores and a few other places. Nothing to it. If you can use spray paint,you can use PD because that's all it is really. Slightly different consistency and takes a little getting used to,but there's nothing to it. John :flapbat nondisclosed_email@example.com (Blackwood Bat)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:43:41 +0000 How To Make Gauntletshttps://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798125,from=rss#post1798125https://bbrotherhoodofthebat.runboard.com/p1798125,from=rss#post1798125What is the best way to create Begins style gauntlets for a guy with NO metal work experience and no latex, plasti-dip, scultping, etc, etc experience. I am eager to learn and also wish to do it as cheaply as possible. Where should I start? Plasti-dip sounds an interesting concept to me and as I understand it, it basically enables any object to be enveloped in a smooth black covering, right? So I am guessing that whatever I do it culminates in plasti-dip which is fairly straight forward, right? So prior to doing that, what does anyone recommend? Getting modelling clay? What should I use to wrap around my arm? Like I say, I am a compelte novice to all of this so please forgive my utter ignorance. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Just remember for this stuff: 1)No experience 2)No budget Cheers fellows! Ken :)nondisclosed_email@example.com (Agent 10)Tue, 26 Jul 2005 18:04:44 +0000