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Plasti Dip Flaking


What is the best way (product+technique) for smoothing down Plastidip once it's been applied, I'm getting some flaky particals and really want it smooth, can someone please tell me their process? Thanks

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Re: PlastiDip question


What are you applying the Plasti-Dip to?

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Re: PlastiDip question


I've already sprayed my latex muscle pieces, I just don't like some of the flaky cover that I'm getting....I really wish that the Plastidip were as smooth as the latex is that it's applied to.
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Re: PlastiDip question


I'm certainly NOT the person to speak to as the exact cause. There's far more experienced people here to answer it.

If you wait, I'm sure someone will come along and give you a clearer answer than I.

But, did you clean the latex with something like denatured alcohol to get any oils or dust off of it first? Or was it a fresh surface to begin with? What kind of time did you allow for it to cure, prior to handling it? How many coats did you spray on and how thick was each coat?

I've heard that temperature, humidity and sometimes even if you have a silly middle name will f**k up Plasti-Dip. :)

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Re: PlastiDip question


EchoSix said most of the stuff you have to do. Cleaning is important. I plasti-dipped a cowl without cleaning it and using rubbing alcohol and it started peeling within a couple days.

You may also want to rough up the latex a bit with sandpaper(don't be too brutal) as you want to give the plasti-dip something to cling on to.
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I'm trying to plasti-dip some gloves. They are rubber on the palm side, which is easy, however the back hand part is cloth. It seems like it is taking a huge amount of pd to cover it. Actually, I'm wondering if it is even working. This can be done right? Hope I didn't waste the pd on this project (making yellow gloves for the Cyclops costume).
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Ooops.

With cloth, you HAVE TO brush on a coat of latex first. Plasti-Dip needs a solid backer. Let the latex cure and then spray on Plast-Dip.

I was given this link as a great source for latex. Burman Industries

To quote Jants...

"You can pick up a gallon of latex (or a smaller container if you don't want to spend 40 on it) from Burman and tint it with some water based black ink. It will turn a grey color. Once it has turned nice and grey, you will simply brush in a very little of it all over the exposed areas. Once this has dried, you then spray it down with plasti-dip."

If you've already applied a bit of Plast-Dip onto the fabric... I would think that acetone would remove it with a bit of scrubbing, but you might want to get better advice.

You say the gloves are fabric... Canvas or what?


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they are not canvas, but I don't know exactly what it is. It's basically the same material as brown jersey gloves.

I've got some extra PVC vinyl left from his suit...maybe I'll make the gloves instead.

Thanks
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Re: PlastiDip question


Since no one else has chimed in on the Plasti-dip dilemma, I'll give it a try...

First of all, if you want to smooth Plast-dip, you'll need a lint free cloth, and some mineral spirits. Generously wet the cloth with the spirits, then wipe in a circular motion. You may get the texture of the cloth in certain areas, just re-wet the cloth, and wipe the surface again trying to keep it smooth as possible as you go.
If you don't like the shiney-ness of the surface after it's "spirited", give your armor/cowl piece another LIGHT coat of Plast-dip.

Now as far as using plasti-dip on a pourous surface such as the glove Awyant mentioned...
The best way to do that would be to seal the surface with contact cement, or latex rubber.
If you don't want to go that far, just keep spraying the Plasti, and it will eventually coat the pourous surface. Of course it will make the surface very hard.
A glove wouldn't be so bad I suspect, but a piece of clothing would probably be unwearable.
I hope this helps you guys out a little.
-Brin

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I gave up on the gloves. I ended up cheating and getting some kitchen rubber gloves (only 100% yellow gloves I can find anywhere). I've deco'd them up a lot, and they look pretty fair for the suit anyway. Will post pics once everything is done.
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