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Hush Suit


I am seriously thinking about putting together a batsuit. My wife is interested in doing Batgirl and probably the new Catwoman (first).

I am really liking the HUSH look. But I am wondering a few things about suits.

1. Which is the better way to go...glueing the parts to an undersuit or the buckle on type? The buckle on type appeals to me just because of the ease of cleaning and what not.

2. The HUSH suit uses the gray suit and blue cowl, cape, boots and gloves, plus the yellow belt. If I were to do this color combo, I would want to go with a charcoal suit and a darker blue-gray for the accessories with a more subdued yellow for the utility belt.

Do you think that this is possible to get these items in darker blue-gray? Do you think it is worth going that color scheme or just do that style suit with black accessories?

Thanks guys!

Zen

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- i personally like the permermantly adhered costumes. i think going the removable with buckle will have a "sloshy" look, kinda like when trooper armor doesn't fit.
- anthing can be custom painted. several brothers have/had custom blue cowls in their collections.

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Hey Zen,

Seeing as I make both types of armor...full body wrap around AND just the bibs with full arms and shoulder muscles to be glued down to an undersuit...I say, whatever you're comfortable with.
Most people find it easier to buckle in and when you remove the suit you just throw your undergarment into the wash...that way you're as fresh and clean as the first day you wore it...otherwise, some like to glue down their suits. Problem I've had there is the armor does pop up off of the undergarment sooner or later and it's always a hassle getting in and out of the suit. A few people have exchanged their glued on type armor for full around types...but that really is a personal choice.
As for the color...in my case that's not an issue because I custom paint everything to your desire and I do NOT use Plasti Dip.

Here's a few custom suits....

Black from mold and unpainted...
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Grey no shading....
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Grey with shading..Hush Style..
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Full Blue lightly shaded Panther suit..with nipples

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The possibilities are endless..as are the color combinations...the blue suit above is a blue urethane Flesh cowl..so even in urethane any color is possible.

These suits are all fun to do but we all have preferences...and each of us see's the Batsuit as they want or need it to be. This is where I have the most fun with this hobby!

David

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Personally, I think David's buckle idea is a cool one, don't get me wrong, but I believe the Batsuit should hug every inch of the body by being glued down. It is still very easy to clean the suit, you just have to do it by hand.

This is a buddy of mine that went by my method of gluing down and you can see how well it looks:
 http://www.msnusers.com/CostumeFreak/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=49

Everything is glued down nice and secure and because of how light my armor is and because of the way I do it, I have never had anything pop off of my undersuit, and I do jumps, kicks, flips, rolls etc....

I have multiple ways of painting latex, in that the color is in the latex or urethane. No outside painting is needed, like using plasti-dip for example. I love plasti-dip for black latex pieces, becuase it really hugs my latex and will not come off. I have done suits in a dark blue, dark grey color scheme before, dark greay armor, dark blue latex cape, dark blue latex cowl, dark blue cod piece, dark blue fins etc..with a giant black bat on the chest and my own version of the yellow belt that have pockets for storing keys, wallets etc.., so anything is possible.

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Thanks for the input! David, that grey looks fantastic!

Ok... more questions:

1. How do I know if a cowl will fit me and look right on me? Are these made to fit?

2. For the glued on version, does everyone here use a wetsuit or do some glue to spandex? What is the mobility like? How would you clean the undersuit?

3. For the buckle on version, how is the moblity for it and durability? Is the fit tight?

Thanks guys!

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Most of my cowls are cast in Urethane, a material I call Flesh II because it's as soft and seems as flexible as real skin.

In some cases people have a smaller head, so they stuff their cowl with foam strips.
 Charles, seen in my icon is wearing my 89 cowl and he stuffed it so that it would fit him like a glove, while others have no need to stuff any cowl..whatever the cowl style may be.

As for the buckles on suit...You tighten them onto your body from the back and the underarms. The Underarms also tighten up and wrap all the way around your arms. Movement is excellent because it is not a thick cast of latex, rather it's backed up with a polyfoam core so it fits well, nothing caves in and as you can see in the thread regarding my 'Hush Panther suit', you can crumple the chest piece into the size of a vollyball and it just springs back into shape.
Movement is very good and like all things, if you strap it on properly it will look like it's supposed to. If you just put it on without adjusting the straps then you wont get that custom tight-fitted look.
As for the pieces that are glued down...I've done that only a few times and although it is a personal thing..I prefer not to encourage it...but, I have made chest pieces and leg pieces without the extra wrap around areas making them exactly like the other ones out there, with the exception that the full shoulders and shoulder blades are still present.
What I can say is that there is no one right way of doing this...again, it's up to you and based on what you want to look like when the suit is all said and done.

David


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Thanks David

So the legs stap on too? What keeps them from sliding down?
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No the legs slide on like shorts. The Panther legs stap on with a lace under the cod piece, and the cod is velcroed on top of it...that's how I make them and how they ship out.
What some people have done, and I have now also.... is on the inner part of the legs glued a small piece of velcro...usually about 3 inches long and the opposite part of the velcro on the undergarment. That way the legs DO NOT fall down. On my suit I attached the opposite side of velcro to the base of my long sleeved tee shirt so when I put it on, I pull it down and the legs attach to it, then I put on the body armor and strap it on...everything fits like a glove!

David

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DAVIDYR1 wrote:

No the legs slide on like shorts. The Panther legs stap on with a lace under the cod piece, and the cod is velcroed on top of it...that's how I make them and how they ship out.
What some people have done, and I have now also.... is on the inner part of the legs glued a small piece of velcro...usually about 3 inches long and the opposite part of the velcro on the undergarment. That way the legs DO NOT fall down. On my suit I attached the opposite side of velcro to the base of my long sleeved tee shirt so when I put it on, I pull it down and the legs attach to it, then I put on the body armor and strap it on...everything fits like a glove!

David



Sounds great! Thanks for the info.

Now I just need to decide on doing the dark blue-gray or black. I think I need to find out if I can get the gloves and boots in that color first.

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If you get Jerry V's gloves and Ed's boots...I can paint them for you to match whatever color you go with for your suit...I painted these to match my Brothers Robin costume..and they started off as black leather gloves...I've also been working with leather for a while now...:)

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