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B & R Gauntlet Grappling Hook - Pics


As far as I know, no one else has one of these. It is the guantlet hook that pops out of the forearm in Batman and Robin. This has always been my favorite bat gadget. I studied the hook itself very in-depthly, and figured out that there is no way the thing can pop out by itself. I examined a close-up screen cap of the one that actually does expand, but it is connected to the guantlet itself by the bottom tips of the wings. My guess is that the wings angled downward and that they were pulled up in each of the four crevaces indented in the guantlet. But, in reality, this mechanism would be a large bulge off of the glove itself and would not be practical for the suit. This mechanism was (probably) only used in this shot. I wish I had the screen caps with me so I could show this. I'll likely post them tommarow. In the next shot of the film, when the hook is actually doing the hookin' (lol), you can see that the parts are actually molded together. This is the sculpt that I created. I'm happy with it-just have to clean it up a little before I mold it and cast it in resin.



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Re: Batman and Robin gauntlet grappling hook


in the film the forarm panel slides to the side to reveal this


LOL!

I like the robin version alittle better myself since it had alittle more esq to it then the bat version

would be nice if you could make a functional one....though I think it would make one hell of a dent in your forarm

great work, keep the updates of it comming



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Nice.
That would fit nicely in a pouch on my utility belt.
Great job!
-Brin

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Re: Batman and Robin gauntlet grappling hook


Here are the screen caps.

This first one is the concealed hook/rang
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Here is the hook "in action"
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Here is the fully extended hook. As you can see, the bottoms of the wings are connected via little bars to the inside of the guantlet bulge mechanism itself. This is what I'm talking about. The hook is not free-operational of the guantlet.
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This is the next shot in the film. In the movie, the camera switches angels quickly-first being at the elbow looking at the wrist, and this shot is reversed to look at the arm. This, in my opinion of course, was done to make the hook look like it is functionally free of the guantlet. Becuase, in the scene looking at the wrist, you can see those little attachment bars to the wings, AND the metal bulge tries to conceal them somewhat through the overlapping and foreshortening of perspective. This shot uses a different hook-one that is molded in one peice. You can notice this becuase the little space(hole, whatever) at the top of the connection bar b/t the wing and the center bat is gone. In other words, the whole thing is B.S.:grumble
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Here is the guantlet exposed after the bat has been shot. My theory is that in every scene of every movie where a grappling hook is shot off, that a string is used, probably made of nylon or something easily bendable. Because, cable is not easily bendable like that. But, I could be wrong-there are those syntetic fibers(filament, I think?) like spider web that are very strong but expensive.
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I still have to sand the edges down, straighten everything out, make the wings thinner, and also slightly re-shape the bat so that the ears come more to a point before I can actually start the repros. :geez

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Re: Batman and Robin gauntlet grappling hook (screen caps added!)


its probably garat wire

string would break and tear


gonna make the forarm launcher next??

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I don't know, it seems too big a task just to get the damn thing to pop out :shootme . But, I will try to make this work first before I even start considering a launcher. And about the wire, I'm just saying that when the actual hook is shot out, it is probably some type of string and not very strong at all, becuase it weighs less and is bendable. Then, when the thing actually hooks, stronger wiring is used. But, I do not have much experience with cable or wiring and am probably wrong.

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You're really doing your homework bro, great job!

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Okay, after reviewing the tape, I conlclude that the arm shown in the scene where this grappling hook pops out is a prosthetic. If you pay attention to the way it moves, you can clearly see that it is fake. The way that it bounces is unrealistic. There might be some recoil on a human arm, but it would not continue to shake after the initial tension. In other words, human reflexes act more fluid and graceful than this arm shown-it is too stiff. So, that explains the launcher, and the way it comes out of the arm. The arm is hollow, which allows it to do so. I will not even try to attempt to make the luancher now, and making a working model would probably pose too much of a headache :banghead . For now, I'm just focusing on getting the actual hook done. This is all new for me, as I have never sculpted before and have never molded and casted before. But, I am good at 2D art, so I know how to make things look right, and have "done my homework" reading the archives about molding. I also have bought a book on the subject, so I should be in pretty good shape. Hopefully I'll have this done by the end of the week:pray -I'll finish up the sculpt today and keep everyone posted.

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Re: Batman and Robin gauntlet grappling hook (screen caps added!)


Reminds me of one of those old helicopter launcher toys. Maybe you can take one of them apart and get some ideas for your launcher?

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I don't know. Those things rely more on gyroscopic(spinning) force to give them lift than from a sudden force such as air or a spring. If I would take a route, I would probably used air compression(such as a modified nerf gun air chamber) Thanks for the idea, but as I said, I'm just focusing on getting the actual bat hook finished right now.

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