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Re: Needed: super-clear pics of the 89 Batwing


Excellent. Thanks to both of you.
Great shots Tony.

I think between the pics Red posted and these,it isn't gonna get any better.

Tony,I'll be able to help you out with a copy,but it will be a while. I'm in the very beginning stages of a major overhaul,but when it's all hauled over it should be really pretty.

My goal is to restore it to look like it would be if it were full scale,as opposed to the smaller version,meaning with all the panels and smaller details.
So basically,it won't be accurate to the smaller filming model any longer,but rather the larger one.

I'm many,many months away from any real progress due to having a life,but as always I'll show progress shots as I go.

John :flapbat

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I have a request for you guys.
Take a look at all the good shots of the top from different angles and count the 'ribs' on the top section of the wings.

In some pics I count 16,but in others I see 14.
I think 16 is the smaller scale,because that's what the one I have here has,and 14 on the bigger scale.

Am I seeing it wrong?

If the bigger has 14,that's what I'm going with because I'm going to do away with area completely and start over,so I want to get it correct to the bigger scale model.

What say you?

John :flapbat

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forget it
i just tried to count and i'm pretty drunk and it's useless.......sorry :dancespot

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Blackwood Bat wrote:

...I think between the pics Red posted and these,it isn't gonna get any better.
John




John, thanks for thinking of me, sir.


Um, I have something else even better that might help this effort, actually. emoticon

I have only mentioned it to a few folks because I don't want people bugging me about it, but I have the original full-size Batwing blueprints like seen in the pics that Red posted, complete with all views and dimensioning.

They are huge and mad cool. :toocool

They were pricy and super rare so I won't be posting freebie pics of it, but I can answer most questions. Feel free to email me. They are in storage, and as my daughter is 8 weeks, i don't have tons of spare time either.

-Tony
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Those pictures simply ROCK !! Outstanding topic and workmanship!! emoticon :up
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I spent a happy hour searching the back catalogues of a few prop auction houses to see if I could track down the blueprints. I knew they had to be in the hands of a Batfan.
Tony, I understand that you need to protect your investment but would you post a low-res pic of the top view?
I started to shop these awesome pics into schematics but If you have them then set them free to the ether.

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While I was searching for 89 BATPLANE it kept asking me if I meant 1890 BATPLANE!


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I have only mentioned it to a few folks because I don't want people bugging me about it, but I have the original full-size Batwing blueprints like seen in the pics that Red posted, complete with all views and dimensioning.


If it absolutely comes down to it,I might hit you up,but I think I can work with what we got here.
I'm still in the "how the hell am I going to approach this first" stage at the moment,so no big hurry.
I know how I'm going to do it,but I want to make sure I'm doing step 1 before moving onto step 2 and so on.

Anybody count the ribs yet?

John :flapbat

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i counted 15. but the pic is hard to count. did you try to blow the image up and lighten it a bit?
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there is a low res shot of the Batwing blue prints in the Official Batman movie magazine

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I did a few things to it,but it's gettin' a whole lot worse before it gets better.

These are the pics before I almost started. The right wing was missing the tip sections at both ends. You can see where I added them in by the color.
In the side view you can clearly see how warped and crooked everything is.
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This is a side view of the main body. This is only to show the top. Now it's much more level and straight.
The bottom is in the middle of being ripped apart and put back together. You'll see.
Notice the how uneven the back part of the cockpit is down to the rear. Now the curve is much more true.
It was actually 'wavey' as well,meaning not straight from the top view. Don't know if it can be seen in the other pics.
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Here's a top view
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The wings are also warped in a bad way,and as I mentioned,the right wing was missing both tips.
The grills,or vents weren't even close to being level,so I sanded them off completely and made new ones and am currently leveling off the overall surface.
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I'm literally sawing parts off the bottom. It's really horrible down there. Most of where the wings start will have to completely redone. The rest on the main body will all have to sculpted and built up to be even with the rest. Due to the overall bad casting and being badly warped,some areas are way too thick and some much too thin. It just simply won't work the way it is.
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Ed,I see why this monstrosity sat for so long.
I've been just messing with it for the last week on and off,but I bet I already have over forty hours into it....easily. I need to get over a few humps before I can start to refine it.
Despite that,I feel very confident that this will really nice when it's done.

Stay tuned.

John :flapbat

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