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How To Build a Begins Closet


I know there was a link and I just can't find it. I'm looking for specs on the begins closet. Like where people purchased the hardware, dimensions.

Honestly I'm feeling lazy and would rather just buy something very close to it and make modifications but I'll build one if necessary. I tried searching but that mostly came up with pictures and not as much text. Any ideas?

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Re: begins closet help


This was the information that Gregday posted about how he made his:

"All the regular stuff (lumber, screws, nails, stain) is from Lowe's hardware store. The stain is Minwax 'Olde Maple Satin.' The wood is just cheap soft white pine panels. The rounded shelf brackets also came from Lowe's. The shelf tops are made of 1/8" plywood. The shelves and brackets have been painted with Rustoleum Hammered Bronze. On the bottom are 4 brass rolling ball casters, also found at Lowe's. On the back wall right side are two hooks for the cape to hang on. On the left side is a (hehe) toilet paper holder bar for the belt to hang on. Both purchased at Lowe's.

The flush brass ring pulls on the back faux drawers are from sailboatstuff.com. You can find them online by searching for "flush brass ring pulls." There are many places that have them, on average $5-8 apiece. This will hit you pretty hard though, as you'll need 38 of them. They get expensive quick, and if you're planning to build a Begins Closet, buy these first so the shock is over quickly.

The cowl holder is a 3 piece assembly. The bottom part is a wide U-shaped drawer handle. The middle section is a 12" hollow steel bar. The top is a small bowl. They have all been epoxied together form one piece. The reason for the drawer handle on bottom is for the cowl tail to slide into. This way, no part of the cowl is deformed while hanging, which would lead to damage over a long period.

The suit holder is a modified men's sportcoat hanger with a steel bar attached to the back and to the back wall. Both the suit holder and cowl holder have been covered with black crushed panne velvet for darkness.

The medallion and door handles on the front were purchased separately and assembled. The medallion is from chinabrasshardware.com and I honestly cannot recall where I got the handles. There's plenty of places online though with door handles and door hardware, so you should be able to find something you like. Extra holes were drilled into the brass medallion and the handles were attached and welded. Both halves were sanded for weathering, primed, and painted Hammered Bronze, then lightly sanded again for 'antiquing.'

The hinges on the outside are just regular 3" hinges found at Lowe's for $1 each.

The Batarang clips on the inside of the doors are a custom build by taking two metal "brick hangers," sawing off the wings and teeth, and attaching them in opposite facing directions. There is an N40 neodymium magnet between the two, and another N40 behind them. Two N40s and two brick hangers equal one Batarang hanger. You can find these brick hangers at any hardware store, they will be in the hooks/hangers/mounting section and in the package look like:

http://www.hardwareworld.com/V2552-Brick-Hanger-pC4439T.aspx

The N40 magnets I used were pulled from the inside of broken hard drives. But if you need a bunch of small neodymium magnets, I recommend unitednuclear.com

In addition to the regular tools you would need for this, such as a hammer and saw, I highly recommend a carpenter's triangle/T-square, a chisel (for installing the flush ring pulls), and a Dremel for much of the small cutting and shaping, especially on metal parts. I had to cut a lot of metal, and many sparks did fly."

Hope this helps.

Thanks again Greg! This info is awesome!!!

 :cheers

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The back wall and sides of my closet are 6 feet tall. The walls extend outward about 16 inches.

Once you get those measurements how you want them, everything else kind of falls into place. But if you want, I can take specific measurements regarding the drawer panels, doors, and all the ridges and lips on the thing.

For the back faux drawers, do not even attempt to have real cabinet drawer fronts made. Not even the real closet had beveled edge drawer faces. Just get some planks, cut them to length, sand and stain.

Most of my boards were 3/4" thick white pine -- cheap stuff.

But yeah, get 3 dimensions down how you want them, and you'll be set. For me, it worked to have it be 6 feet tall, about 16 inches deep, and about 40 inches wide. The back "wall" is actually 2 20" wide boards joined together and seamed across the back with 0.5" planks.

For what it's worth, I tried searching for a prebuilt Chinese cabinet I could convert because building this whole thing is a pretty big task for someone with zero woodworking experience, but there was just nothing out there that worked. Besides, it only took about 7 months to completely spec, design, and build it. Best advice is to treat it like another part of the suit, and just take it very slowly, and always re-evaluate your ideas and look for areas of improvement.

For staining, I used Minwax Olde Maple Satin. And you will need a LOT of foam brushes.

And if you go all the way and chisel out divots for the ring pulls, you will feel a great sigh of relief when you get that last one, #38, done. Having no access to a jig, I absolutely hated hand-chiseling all those holes.

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Oh, one more thing. If you do build it yourself, use a real saw. Whether it's a power saw or a handheld wood saw, don't make the mistake I did and use a $4 hacksaw for the wood cutting. I nearly broke my wrist from wearing it out with that thing.

As for other power tools, you really don't need much else. The only power tool I used was a 7v cordless Dremel, which had its battery drained and charged 2-3 times every day.

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Did you get the chrome or the gold ones ring pulls? What size did you get? I'm starting to sketch something out and get an idea how to build this. The pictures of your closet really help make the difference.

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Gold colored brass ring pulls

I just put a bunch of the older and newer pictures together on the gallery last night


http://seraphim.ecsis.net/~gregday/batman


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Any specific info you have such as specific parts, dimensions, or even just tips I'll gladly take. I'm trying to get things together and this will be my winter project. If you like gladly e-mail me: mperri12@hotmail.com Thanks!

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This is my project over the next month or so... thanks for all the details. Setting up the prints and ordering parts.

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On Sailboat stuff which size pulls did you buy? I don't want to get the wrong ones..too big or too small.

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The ones I got are a little too small. I got the smallest ones of the 3 sizes they offer. You probably want the middle size, the 1 3/4" pulls.

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