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I was just wondering if you could get the dimensions of the planks for the back wall???

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Any update on dimensions here? I just ordered the hardware and am looking at last minute changes that might be helpful. Pics of the inside etc, to properly mount door hinges. I'm going a little bigger with specs...78"x42"x25"

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I'll try to get some photos and hard numbers tonight.

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Alright, I got pictures and measurements. But it's really a lot simpler than you may think. I usually try to take only carefully lit and framed photos and then pick out the best of the best for things to post here, but these are not that. These are raw, unedited, and downright ugly photos of my closet in its most unflattering appearance. Oh well, if it helps you learn...

The hinges I used are the simplest kind you can get. They are 3" wide and mount on the outside. If I had to do it all over, I might get nicer, hidden interior hinges, but I do like that they add some flair to the outside of the closet, and keep its old fashioned look. There are 6 hinges, mounted at the 4 corners, and then one in the middle on each side also.

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When you open the doors, it looks like this. Yeah, I know I need to trim back those screw tips. I'll get around to it eventually.

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Now, that picture alone might tell you everything you need to know. There's an "outer ridge" which is visible when its closed, and to which the hinges attach, and then there's an "inner ridge" which goes behind the doors. When the doors close, they meet the inner ridge. This prevents the doors from being pushed in too far and overstressing the hinges.

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Now, the inner ridge and outer ridge pieces are exactly the same dimensions. But because the outer ridges mount on the outside of the closet, over the sides, and the inner ridges mount inside the closet, up against the sides, the inner ridges jut out a little bit inside the closet. It's this jutting that provides the barrier when you push on the doors. Again, since one is on the outside of the walls, and one is on the inside, they kind of stair step.

But, both the inner and outer ridge are the same dimensions. 0.75" thick, 1.5" wide, and.. however long. I think 6' on mine. Adjust your length accordingly.

Here's the bottom:

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And the top:

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You will notice the top and bottom also have another inner ridge running horizontally. These are only there, like the side inner ridges, to provide something for the doors to collide with when they close. You really don't want your hinges stressed when you push the doors closed. So on my closet, the doors hit ridges on all 4 sides. If you keep your inner and outer ridges and your doors all the same thickness (0.75" in my case) then the doors will 'lay' neatly in the little frame you have made, and the front of your closet will be flush (aside from any hinges/handles/hardware).

Now, on mine, my bottom ridge is just like the side ridges in width and thickness, but only long enough to go end to end on the inside. I want to say it comes in right at 36" (because my closet is 40" wide on the outside end to end, and the bottom ridge is only inner, like |------| it ends up being short by exactly the width of the outer side ridges. Again, don't overthink what I'm saying. Just look at the pictures.

I chose to make my top ridge thinner than it needed to be because I had to accommodate for my overhead lighting installation and wiring. Otherwise it would have mirrored the bottom ridge completely.

Now, for top/bottom ridges on the OUTSIDE of the closet, these are much wider. These are not going to be thin 0.75" strips like everything up so far. You want these to be wide planks, 4-6" wide, because you'll need to create a top and bottom "mantle" so the "floor" of your closet sits up a little higher than the floor of your room it's in. As for the top, well, you could just cap it off right there, but on mine, I created a little storage area on the roof and hid it by that 4" mantle so my lighting fixtures and wiring are stuffed up there. Yours may not need it. These outer, top and bottom mantle pieces are what you see on the outside of my closet, at the very top, 4" high, and at the very bottom, 6" high.

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I built mine so that I have just enough room when all is said and done. My size 44 Herowares just, by 1/10" fit in the space I provided. Smaller than the real thing, but it's fine for me. Here's how it looks on the inside when my left door is closed. Notice how close the batarangs come to the toe of the boots.

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Ok, that should just about cover the door framing. Now, ceiling and floor.

Make sure you plan for your ceiling and floor. If you plan to ever move this thing, you are going to need to put some kind of wheels or casters on it. Don't underestimate the weight of all the wood of the box itself, and those faux drawer fronts in the back. This !@#$ gets heavy, and fast. The easiest way to understand what I did for my floor, is to first look at the ceiling.

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Top right side:

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I again use 0.75" thick ridge pieces, nailed to the top approximately where I wanted the ceiling. Then I got a piece of wood cut to the right size and just laid it on top of that lip, and then nailed it in place. Maybe that's overkill, but it sure made it a lot easier to line everything up just right. And it keeps things much more structurally intact. Just 3 ridge pieces, around the back and both sides.

For the floor, I did exactly the same thing, but you can't see the lip because the floor is laying on top of it. It's that simple.

That should answer most of your questions, but this is how I built mine. Yours could, and should be different :)




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One more thing, my back wall is actually 2 planks side by side. I could not find a single piece of wood that was 6 feet long and 40 inches wide, so I got 2 that were 20" wide each and fastened them together. I really should show you the back of my closet... where I've secure the 2 planks together with a bunch of thinner planks, and also when I was staining my faux drawer fronts, I used the back of my closet (back wall laid face down) as a work area... and... yeesh. It looks like a murder scene.

But yeah, if you look carefully you'll see the seam running down the center of my "back wall."

Since those are 6 feet tall, my side walls are likewise 6 feet tall. And my front doors come in at just under 5.5' tall because of the bottom mantle and floor.

And finally, you may want to let your woodworking skill guide you in your design style. I, having zero experience when I began, knew mine would turn out less than spectacular looking, so I purposely tried to give it that old Chinese wedding cabinet look with weathered hardware and uneven wood. You could make it look showroom perfect like the Bobs', or go my route. Depends on how comfortable you are with wood.


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Very cool of you to share your info like this Greg. :up :up
-Brin

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Very cool stuff. :up :up

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Thanks for posting all the info, Greg. This will really help when I get started on mine.

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Hey bro,I really appreciate all the pics and tips. I'll be making mine pretty much like yours with a few modifications. The dimensions on mine will be slightly larger because I have the room for it but that's a great looking closet for sure. Thanks again for being so candid. This is the reason this board is so great, knowledge is shared and not hoarded. I'll post pics as I get things completed...should be soon.

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Once again, for your shelves, go to K & K Industries ( http://kkindustries.com ) and just tell them what you want. Even mention my name if you want and what I did, they'll remember me. They are just a small metal fab shop in Washington, and they can make your shelves in solid steel perfectly. They will send you a CAD file that you can look over and just tell them if you want the circles larger, smaller, moved, etc. I only paid about $120 for the shelves and brackets shipped, and they had them out to me in 3 days.

The shelves and brackets themselves are strong as an ox and you won't find sturdier, more accurate shelves for that price anywhere.

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