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Re: Need some sculpting help...


Okay, so I'd like to post pictures of my progress so far, but I don't know where to post them. The Off Topic area? Because it's not Batman, but I would like some feedback and I know these sections get more traffic.

Anyway, does the base layer of clay really matter that much? Because so far my permoplast has worked well, but we got some super sculpey and were thinking maybe we could throw that on to work the details in (if necessary).
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Re: Need some sculpting help...


You can post your sculpt pics here, even if it's not Batman. It's costume-making related, so it's fine. :)

I don't know about mixing clays though, maybe someone else will have an answer to that question.

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Re: Need some sculpting help... updated 6.8 w/ pix


Okay, well it might not look like much, but this is HUGE progress for me and my friend. This is our first time sculpting anything and we don't really know what we're doing.
Sorry for the LARGE pictures.

So we started with a plaster cast I made of my head originally for a cowl (which never got past that stage), and made a plaster mold of my head. The pictures of this stage got lost somehow, but oh well. Then we added clay:
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then we started to shape it:
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and add some guidelines:
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just another angle:
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Then we ran into some trouble with the brow, so we filled the eyes back in hoping it would help:
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And a shot with dramatic lighting:
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Thanks for looking and any advice/criticisms are welcome. Now I think I'll go work on it a little bit more right now...
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Re: Need some sculpting help...


Thats amazing, especially fora first sculpt. I can't wait to see where this goes! What kind of clay are you using? As to mixing clays, don't do it. DO NOT. Ther are some that can be mixed but not for what your trying to do, layering them generally doesn't work. Clays have different bases and normally don't mix well. You could use super sculpy for seperate pieces like the "ears" and mold them seperately and attach later but I don't think thats necessary at all. Just keep going on the path your on now.
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Thanks, for the compliment, and for the tip. We happened to already use some "plastalina" with what we're mostly using "Permoplast". It's a pretty good clay (based on my comparison to, oh, about nothing) and we've got this far with it. Okay, so I won't mix the clay. Good advice. I don't think we have to worry too much because what we did already mix were both oil based.
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Re: Need some sculpting help... Iron Man Helmet update 6.11


Thought I'd update with some pictures.
We tried smoothing it out a little, and I tried to even out both sides...
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Darn, this picture definitely looks like the forehead is uneven. It's funny how I didn't notice that before.
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and one of me with my head next to the sculpture, just for reference. Don't know what's up with my face...
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Anyway, does anyone have any advice as to how to smooth it out, as in "ready to cast"?

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Re: Need some sculpting help... update 6.8 w/ pix


this is looking to be great!

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Re: Need some sculpting help... update 6.8 w/ pix


Thanks for the encouragement. I've heard some bros say that a sculpture is never "finished", instead you just stop sculpting. Well, I know I'm not done, but I'm curious as to how to get there. I feel like the general form is turning out nicely, but I'm kinda stuck as to the next big step. Or is that the problem, are they all small steps from here?
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Re: Need some sculpting help... Iron Man Helmet update 6.11


Also, does anyone have any input on the symmetry? That's something I'm having a hard time with. Thanks again bros.
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Re: Need some sculpting help... update 6.8 w/ pix


Looks good so far. As far as symmetry goes, besides taking a break from the sculpt for a day or two and coming back with fresh eyes, pictures can help, too. Sometimes you'll see things in photos immediately that you missed staring at the damn thing for hours!

As for smoothing, you can use various rakes and steels, and of course your fingers. For the final smoothing, you can use some kind of mild solvent (alcohol or mineral spirits) with a sponge, a fine wire mesh, and/or brushes. If you check the archives, there's a number of other methods mentioned, too. Try several different ones, and see which works best for you and the clay you're using.

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