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89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done! NEW PICS 07/09


Ok so its been forever since I posted anything about the sculpt.
Im not adding the seam in the back, Ive grown to like the look without it in there.

I still cant get great pics of it (I was thinking of doing a video and seeing how it looks there) but these are some of the better ones.

All thats left to do now is finish the muscles in the back, blend in the "frown" between the eyebrows, a little more smoothing and the cutouts.

I havent decided if I should add the texture to the neck and then do the cut outs or cut the shape and then add texture. Any thoughts?

Im really feeling good about it now, I wasnt feeling it for a while but I cant wait to mold it and FINALLY have a cowl of my own.

Hope you guys like it!

Nat.

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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


It is looking GREAT so far Nathan.
A few things I would change, that would dramatically change the sculpts shape is the face.
Here's a pic of my Bob D.
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You can see the face is longer, mostly in the jaw. Remember, Latex shrink :wink

Another thing is the back scallop, you can barely see the scallop from the front. Currently the scallops are almost like Returns ones. If you add that one little detail, it makes it look a lot better.

Other than those details, everything looks great, and amazing for a first sculptor :up


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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


Yeah I should have added a note to that last pic, the scallops arent actually there anymore. I filled them in cuz as you saw, they were wrong. I added it as its one of the few good shots I got.
Im going to be making a template so they are all even.

I may be being slow, but what do you mean the face is longer? The jaw on mine goes from my nose to my chin. I cant make it longer, and trust me, this thing is THICK and shrinkage will not be a problem :lol

I know it looks like theres no neck there, but there is, I just took a chunk out when I last worked on it by accident.
After studying pics of the movie cowl, the neck is created mostly by extending it up through the back of the head.

Im going to start working on it in a few and hopefully when the back is done and shaped things will look more accurate with the neck filled out.

The other thing is I have a different shape to Bobs Keaton bust and this thing will ultimately have the same dimensions as me although Im trying to get it as accurate as possible.

Thanks for the words though Bro, the support is appreciated! :cheers

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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


Ah, okay then.
I guess I mean in comparison to the width of the eye brows, the face should be made longer, to prevent it looking circular if that makes sense.

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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


I get ya, its the neck thats throwing it off. I trimming it from the back and although the shape was right at the back, the front was way off again. I know what needs to be done.

The cowl actually IS round compared to the Returns cowl that goes straight from the ears to the neck.

Cowls always look so different depending on the angle which makes it hard to replicate accurately. In these pics you can see how round the cowl is.

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It looks round and almost helmet like, but then there are other pics where it doesnt look like that at all despite being the same cowl.
I may well bring the edges of the brow in though to see how it looks.

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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


After looking and comparing the shots of your cowl and the Real Deal, I think the thing that is now getting me is the forehead. That's what needs to be longer, and more round/egg shaped.
Ya, angles and perspectives sure make everything look different.
Not trying to break down on our sculpt, just trying to make it the best it can be :up

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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


Actually, you are 100% right, I hadnt even noticed that. It would change the whole look making it appear longer in general and not as square. Guess Ill have to extend the ears too then. Ah dammit :lol but thanks for that, thats why I posted these pics.

I wonder how much Keaton actually filled that cowl? Hmmm...well I have clay to warm :lol

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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


Yep....forehead definitely needs to be longer

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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


If you need reference, goto: http://www.bobdullam.com under sculptures
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Re: 89 Cowl sculpt update WIP Pics, almost done!


Glad I got helped you before the silicone :lol
Ya, I think that will definitely bring this sculpt to the next level :up

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