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Re: If you could ask the creators of the original movie suit anything.....


I'll share this with you now though and the rest will wait until the article.

MK is very claustrophobic, so much so that he couldn't have a traditional headcast done.

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So instead they coated him in 80 lbs of black rubber! Bet that was a biiiiiitch for him! I had my head casted 2x last month but it was a tragic mess! (student) I know how he feels......

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Lets see... Am trying to think of a question that I don't already know the answer to.

1. I think the reason why they ran the foam so dense, that at the time the school of thought was, the more runy the foam was, the less chance of air pockets. But, ask that question. softer foam would have made the cowl less claustrophobic to wear. They probaly didn't know how to whip the foam to a high volume, and still get a good flow.

2. Why the seams? particularly on the torso. They probaly used a 2 part fiberglass neg, but why not a wraparound 1 piece mold, with a 2 part jacket? On the cowl the reason was so they could get the core in, and posibly they didn't have time to make a collapsable core. Or no time for R+D.

3. Why didn't they sculpt the jaw area of the cowl to be more squarer, instead of using pieces of metal to reshape the jaw? Possilby cause they didn't think about the shrinkage of dense foam. Or after he did a test fit, they realized they wanted a squarer jaw. hindsight thing.

4. why didn't they increase the dia. of Keatons neck on the core? this would have made it UBER easier to get the cowl on and off. Ya, Keaton may be claustrophobic, but some of the tech. in those days, would have freaked out most people. (they could have got Keatons entire head using the sunbonet method. It would have been no more discomfort, in fact way MORE comfortable than just a face cast. But, they probaly didn't know.)

5. Why not urethane on the emblem? probaly because at the time Paul B.B. didn't know about it. remember this was back in 89'. My friend the late Tom Culnan introduced 2 part hard urethane to Paul at the batshop back during pre-prod of B.R. I think he was using Polyester resin at the time. Least that's what I heard.

6. why did they choose the more muscular look over the armoured look? (the first design?). What prompted that descision?

7. what problems did they have painting the belt. Story through the grapvine was that when Keaton first tried on the belt, he noticed the paint cracking all over. Not sure if really true. I heard they ended up with auto bumper paint. I used to talk to P.B.B. a lot in those days. I talked to Day Murch a couple of times, and met him once. Say hello to them if you see them. Straining to think of questions.

This costume was THE invention. In my opinion it changed the course of costuming forever. Even creature sculpts. The basic idea of the suit was so cool, that even various creature sculpts through the years had some influence. Back in 91' I was having a phone conv. with Tom C. and I asked him if he thought that the Batsuit was the most difficult, and involved suit to date, and he said absolutely. I also believe that suit, along with the 89' car had a lot to do with the whole superhero revolution on films. Because it was all so inspiring.


 
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This is really interesting information. I can't wait to see this article! You've gotta respect the 89 suit. That is great stuff Bob, thanks for sharing.

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It probably wouldn't be something the suit creaters could answer but I've always wondered how the motorized utility belt worked.

One thing they may be able to answer is, what order did they glue the suit down in?
Eg, glue the suit to the undersuit, then add the latex to the exposed areas or was it done differently.
It always looked like the undersuit was covered before the armor was glued on.

Can't wait to see the article!

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1. Why did they choose to go all black?

2. What was the logic behind the belt? It's always bothered me that Batman's belts in the movies look very useless and not at all possible of acting out their actual function in the comics.

Definitely let us know when all these get answered! I'm uber excited to know the answers!

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From what I understand Nike had inked a deal with WB and they were trying to figure out a way to use the product in some form in a movie. Hence Batman...
even if you cannot see them really.
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I've always wondered about the belt too. It looks great, but there's no obvious function built into it. Also, if going with the all black motif, why not make the belt black too? Seems awfully bright for a vigilante who's trying not to be seen...
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how was rhe emblem, chest piece, and cape secured together?? Have heard various theories throughout the years and would like to know the facts
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Why is the emblem different than the emblem on the poster?

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