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Re: If you could ask the creators of the original movie suit anything.....


Nat,
i don't know if the motorized belt will ever work because the 2 capsules are in the way where the spear gun will travel to front.
...in the movie, you see the capsules disappear, the spear gun rolls to front, then the same caps reappears again.
   it's their idea of 'movie magic'


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Why is the emblem different than the emblem on the poster?



The movie poster was producer Jon Peters' idea.He mentioned it on the Special Ed DVD
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1. What color was the belt. Yellow or gold? Because theres a few here who believe it was yellow. And some who believe it was gold. Or did they use two? Or was it just lighting effects?

2. How tall was Keaton when he wore the suit? Did he use lifts to give him more height?

3. About how many suits do you think were used in total when filming Batman (including the stunt suits)?

4. How much did it cost to make the bat suit?



And I think thats it. :up
BATMAN 1989 is my favorite Batman movie ever. I love the suit so much, I'm always fascinated every time I look at my replica sculpted by Dullam. It just has so much raw power to it.
When I was a kid, I remember noticing the cowl design. Its the first thing that stood out to me. How heavy the brows were. Almost simian like. Very beastly.
Yet, depending on lighting, it has the utmost ability to change the look completely. I also love the emblem. It was odd but it also immersed me into thinking this is probably what the emblem looks like in that particular batman world and I accepted it as a work of original art.

Good stuff!
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Nat,
i don't know if the motorized belt will ever work because the 2 capsules are in the way where the spear gun will travel to front.
...in the movie, you see the capsules disappear, the spear gun rolls to front, then the same caps reappears again.
   it's their idea of 'movie magic'






Actually it was the movie magic I was curious about, hence my saying it's probably not something they could answer as it was a separate department that made the belt with the chain on it fir that shot.

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Batnar has some very good questions. I always was curious as to exactly how tall he is. Some of the Herb Ritts stuff posted by Reevz, shows Keaton in suit to be shorter than Jack N.

would like to elaborate on Batnars 3.

How many suits were made total, and how many if any were modified for insert shots. i.e. some cowls were actually slit up the back and left unglued together, because he wouldn't be turning around on that particular shot. How many "hero" buckles did they make? I heard they only made one or two out of metal, and the rest were resin, with hooks tying the buckle to the belt, but not sure.

4. to elaborate, how much did each suit cost, but did they use "bad pulls" for stunt guys to wear, or did they sculpt separate suits to perfectly fit each stunt guy. also who were the stunt guys covering Keaton? I know in B.R.'s Alex Daniels covered Keaton. I met him when I was doing B.R.'s suits for magic mountain in C.A. He had black curley hair like Keaton, but was a real muscular guy. An A list stunt guy in those days.

Back in 05'. I was making a decsion regarding my own collection. I was either gona go all out 89', or all out Begins. It was close. Real close. Had I chose 89', I woulda redone my 89', and built an 89' vehicle. would be great to see someone go the distance with just the 89'. nothing else. Just doing one or the other full out, is like a lifetime achievement. By full out, I mean, all the gadgets, suit in foam. the car, done 89 style, using the flip flop paint, full finished interior, everything. costume vault, incarcerated in rock. I still have a LONG way to go to finish my begins. Long way.
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How did I miss this thread?

I haven't had a chance to read it all yet,but...
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to elaborate, how much did each suit cost, but did they use "bad pulls" for stunt guys to wear, or did they sculpt separate suits to perfectly fit each stunt guy. also who were the stunt guys covering Keaton?


I think some of the bad pulls were used for stunts,but who knows. For the 89,I believe there was one suit sculpt for both hero and stunt.
I read somewhere years ago that they went through 4 different sculpts/test fittings before getting it right.
The Returns suit was DEFINTELY sculpted twice for both Keaton and the main stuntman...was it David Lee?
Also,for the shot on the stairs during the AXIS chemical scene where Batman walks across the railing,it was a ballet dancer for that particular shot,so that accounts for one stuntman. :wink

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would be great to see someone go the distance with just the 89'. nothing else. Just doing one or the other full out, is like a lifetime achievement. By full out, I mean, all the gadgets, suit in foam. the car, done 89 style, using the flip flop paint, full finished interior, everything. costume vault, incarcerated in rock. I still have a LONG way to go to finish my begins. Long way.


I would have liked that to be me,but I'm not alone there. The car might not be a realistic possibility(...still possible though),but I would have gone the full 9 on everything else.
Well,we tried.

Some questions will never be answered,like how many suits,because they might not even know themselves,considering parts were no doubt mixed and matched to a certain point to create full suits. I mean,I'm sure they made a certain number of armor-mounted 'jumpsuits',but gloves,boots,emblems,cowls,etc.,were probably different quantities. Whatever 'full' suits might be out there now are probably put together from the best left over parts.
I heard they made three pairs of boots for 89,and 6 pairs for Returns,but this is stuff I pick up over the years,don't really remember the source,or how accurate that source would be.
I heard something like 40 capes were made,which is probably about right.

As for how the chest/cape/emblem we went together,we already know that. We just don't know exactly what the 'harness' looked like,but we know how it was done and how it went together.

My questions would be fairly simple.

Of all the parts,the belt looked oddly out step at the time. I've become used to it after 20 years,but at the time it didn't seem to fit.
Why was that design chosen and what inspired it?

Also,like someone else mentioned,the extra points on the emblem,but Jonathon once said he believed it was to represent the feet of the bat.

I think it's just because it's 'Tim Burton's Batman' and that's what he wanted,just because he's Tim Burton.

But that would be the second question.

John :flapbat

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well I guess thats what I mean, what did the cape/emblem harness look like
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oh yeah. the belt color. that has always been a mystery for years. This would definately be a Paul-Barrett-Brown question. What we would all wanna know is: the manuf., type, color, and/or color combo of the whole belt. some pics do look school bus yellow, some look greenish gold, some gold. Or, were there X, no. of belts each with diff. color for different lighting cond.? Even though I will never make another 89' belt, I still can't help but wanna know.. lol. I heard it was some sort of automotive bumper paint. I think Paul told me that in a phone conv. But I never got the color. stupid me....
   On a side note: Paul B.B. came up with the sonar pigment scheme I believe,in B.F. I know he did most of the painting of the suits. chasin' the dream.
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Thanks guys.

Certainly some of these questions, I've already asked, so great minds think alike. There are also plenty of questions here that have already been answered from other sources. So I won't necessarily ask them again, but I'll try and source the answers from what has already been published over the years and include them in the article too.

Bob, in terms of foam density, I can tell you that the cowl was a lot less dense than the body suit. The one I own is not much more dense that the foam you run.

The body suit was very different though. Very dense, almost silicone like.

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Keaton discusses his claustraphobia and how it affected his Batman performance in this interview from last year.




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PJ look at Rusty's cowl in his post about him and his car at kids fest. He got it from a friend of yours.Amazing work.
When they shortened Keatons ears to get into the car, and have the canopy close how much did they trim ?Did we ever see that whole cowl in the movie or did they never pan to the top of his head so the ears always looked full?
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