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BatmanALL wrote:

I wouldn't put all the blame on Jason. He did what he thought best to keep it relevant. There are a crap ton of Batman costume groups on Facebook now. I won't list them all but there are at least 5 I can think of of the top of my head, not to mention the multiple b/s/t pages.

Something I tried to do (and failed) with Behind the Mask was use the FB page to link to post on the forum. But again, people didn't care.

I just don't understand.



My issue with what Jason did was say this place was closed to new members and when he offered that I could keep it up he gave me no ability to do so. It took me close to a year to get it transferred over. I had no problem with having a facebook presence as well. It simply didn't need to be either/or. If he'd simply bowed out to run things there and just left this place "as is" I think things would have remained active here.
That said however it does seem some people are slowly gravitating back (though real slowly). I just wish Photobucket hadn't done what they did because our archives and other important imagery is trashed and I can't do anything about that, ugh.
Lets not forget also, this isn't my first ride through the BOTB getting "damaged" The move here from EZboard in 2004 was a huge upheaval as well. Only problem this time is without people helping with the rebuild I don't think we can get "everything" back that we recently lost (photobucket thing).

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My two cents here from a long time lurker and rare poster.

too strick rules.

no evolution.

I'm a member since 2005. the search engine is the same, and in my opinion very very weak, to say kindly.

Needing an account on a third party site to post pics is insane in 2017, and leaves botb vulnerable to changing rules and losing content.

and, dont mean to insult anyone who gave time and sweat here, but the grandma rules we had to follow strickly or be kicked out or patronize were a pain in the ass. That is compared to oter forum where guidelines were not a hassle. how often i saw a prima donna attitudes which got on my nerve...

i met very cool people here and i think it's sad the knowledge base is slowly becoming obsolete due to those reasons.


the web is an open place. This forum would have been better to be more open, yes like rpf.

still, you're doing a great job with what you got, ed. i encourage you to continue... but maybe, if possible of course, a complete make over is necessary at this point.

rock on!!

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Well I have to side with Ed on blaming the previous owners. I have talked to other people about it as well. Guess what? The BOTB facebook page is in shambles. No direction at all ovew there and noone monitoring what is going on. Myself and Nat Reynolds were removed from being mods/admins since we are "makers" and had too much control. Since that point it has steadily declined in relevant content. Just was looking at it right now. And I am not trying to insult anyone but it has been far removed from costuming which the entire BOTB was based upon. Right now the first ten posts are as follows:
1. Cowl for sale
2. Someone looking for Revdesign
3. Someone posting they love guns and Batman and is that weird.
4. A painted grappling gun (not Tonys)
5. Two kids in standard costumes shooting a video with their dad (Good video)
6. Picture from a photo shoot
7. Costume picture
8. Wedding ring upgrade
9. Bat signal light from Walmart
10. Cowl picture.
And 11. for fun... someone looking for a watch stand.

Point is very little on costuming. Build a better Batman (trademark claimed...) has attempted to take on costume building but the majority of people are simply looking for places to buy stuff. And makers such as Gauntlet, Hernandez and Tigerstone arent even on Build anymore.
I know James had serious issues getting a hold of one of the mods/admins at BOTB to get something taken care of. I barely check any of the facebook pages anymore. They are filled with a ton of new people who think they know the best way to do everything.

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I check in here almost daily although I rarely post anymore. Photobuckets's new policies has killed our archives and it's a shame.


The BOTB Facebook page is frustrating at the moment. Very little costuming/prop making. Rules of the board, which are for the most part pretty solid, are not followed on the facebook page.


I was enjoying another Batman costuming site until the owner started making some pretty ridiculous claims and threatened to kick out other members for joining groups that he didn't sanction. That rubbed me the wrong way and I don't know if I will participate in it any longer.

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My two cents here from a long time lurker and rare poster.

too strick rules.

no evolution.

I'm a member since 2005. the search engine is the same, and in my opinion very very weak, to say kindly.

Needing an account on a third party site to post pics is insane in 2017, and leaves botb vulnerable to changing rules and losing content.

and, dont mean to insult anyone who gave time and sweat here, but the grandma rules we had to follow strickly or be kicked out or patronize were a pain in the ass. That is compared to oter forum where guidelines were not a hassle. how often i saw a prima donna attitudes which got on my nerve...

i met very cool people here and i think it's sad the knowledge base is slowly becoming obsolete due to those reasons.


the web is an open place. This forum would have been better to be more open, yes like rpf.

still, you're doing a great job with what you got, ed. i encourage you to continue... but maybe, if possible of course, a complete make over is necessary at this point.

rock on!!



Hi Yan,

   I have to agree with some of your concerns, like needing second party hosting for images and the search function, Unfortunately BOTB owners don't control that. It's Runboard that does that and I do know they were working on image hosting options after the Photobucket debockel . But I 100% disagree with other points like the rules and lack of evolution. Jamie and I made a lot of changes once I finally got control. Take a moment and read the new rules. I removed pretty much all of the previous restrictions, including almost all of the trade section rules. We also added special sections up to and including a section for charity work. Unfortunately the photobucket issue had wrecked the archives and unless the original posters put in new links that can't be fixed.

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ed, you are absolutely correct and please excuse me 'cause i wasnt clear enough:

my too strick rules comment applied up to somewhere 2013 where i got fed up and lost interest in having to follow all those rules.

since that time, i really haven't posted or followed too close what went on.

I was sharing why I stopped being active here around that time and went elsewhere for my costuming needs.

again, sorry mate, didnt mean to be a dick to you!!

peace!

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ed, you are absolutely correct and please excuse me 'cause i wasnt clear enough:

my too strick rules comment applied up to somewhere 2013 where i got fed up and lost interest in having to follow all those rules.

since that time, i really haven't posted or followed too close what went on.

I was sharing why I stopped being active here around that time and went elsewhere for my costuming needs.

again, sorry mate, didnt mean to be a dick to you!!

peace!


Ahhh, I see. And I fully agree with you there. And no worries on the misunderstanding. It should be clear from what I did once I acquired control that I didn't agree with all the rules and restrictions either. I tried for nearly 11 years to get the previous admin staff (not necessarily Jason and his team. The folks even before) that they were being paranoid and taking the fun out of everything. I many times (almost to the point of being banned, saved only by the fact that I'm "Uncle" Ed and it would have started a war, LOL) referred to their rules and restrictions and militaristic view on how things SB run as Nazi's. The staff acted like the SS vigilantly reprimanding those who "disobeyed".. Well I changed that but unfortunately it could have been too late (which saddens me greatly).

I seriously hope this place picks up and that some of the oldies come back. I also hope that people's stuff that's in the archives can me updated by those that posted it. I did open up the archives for that reason like 6 months before Photobucket decided to screw everyone.


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I do other costuming. Therpf still has alot of traffic, but they cater to a wide audience. The each area of speciality isn't booming by itself, but if you add all the facits of DC, Marvel, SW, and all others it is a large group. The 501st keep the actual build areas and sales areas on forums. To find out how to get an approved costume, you have to go to a specific forum for that costume. There are no Batman costumes that need approval to play.

Even if this forum was kept open to new members, there are numerous FB pages dedicated to buying Batman, and other superhero stuff with auto notification if something is for sale. I have been a member here for awhile and will continue, but I also am all over FB.

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I agree about the building aspect is just about gone!! A lot of people just want to buy buy buy. No interest in building anything. They want movie quality suit for cheap and they want it NOW!!! the Facebook batman group I'm a part of is cool now. Like someone else mentioned, the old owner recently went on a tirade and rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Its being run by a great group of guys now. Thing is you post something, go back a couple days later, now its lost in a bunch of other post. We have to figure out a way to breath some life back into this place.
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I agree about the building aspect is just about gone!! A lot of people just want to buy buy buy. No interest in building anything. They want movie quality suit for cheap and they want it NOW!!! the Facebook batman group I'm a part of is cool now. Like someone else mentioned, the old owner recently went on a tirade and rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. Its being run by a great group of guys now. Thing is you post something, go back a couple days later, now its lost in a bunch of other post. We have to figure out a way to breath some life back into this place.



I honestly think if people were "reminded" that this place is here and it's ACTUALLY OPEN they might come back. The biggest issue right now is image hosting and trying to fix our history. For that we need OP's to update their images.
So to that end, everyone needs to post that this place is here in all of the facebook groups and let them know that the rules are ALOT "gentler" than they used to be.

Remember folks, I can't do this alone. This is a community and has to involve all of the community members.

Oh and if anyone still keeps in touch with Tim (The Black Bat) let him know about the photobucket issue and ask him if he can send me all of our community imagery. I emailed him a while ago but ,,,,,no reply a all..

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